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Re:Kiel Institute Analysis: US Americans pay 96% of tariff b... by BanAntiVaxxers on Monday January 19, 2026 @11:51AM (#46681217)
She’s known to own firearms. I wonder what would happen if one of these Democrat candidates released a video like “A girl and her Glock: Kamala goes John Wick”.

Similarly, AOC should visit the south, eat some grits, volunteer with some Black churches, and do a little skeet shooting with some good ole boys.

Re:Kiel Institute Analysis: US Americans pay 96% of tariff b... by nathan_compton on Monday January 19, 2026 @11:58AM (#46681372)
It would be perceived as pandering bullshit from either of them.

What the democrats need is an aggressive economic policy that actually will manifestly improve regular people's lives. If they cannot articulate such a thing and credibly convince the voter that they will fucking fight for it, they will never win.

Re:Kiel Institute Analysis: US Americans pay 96% of tariff b... by BanAntiVaxxers on Monday January 19, 2026 @12:01PM (#46681430)
She can articulate the policy at the shooting range while eating some grits. And drinking some Keystone Light. That is when they will be receptive to the ideas.
Re:Kiel Institute Analysis: US Americans pay 96% of tariff b... by bilbo0s on Monday January 19, 2026 @12:23PM (#46681761)
That won't do anything.

No one at a gun range is changing their vote.

Both parties already know which voters change their votes depending on the situation. The data's already told strategists in both parties that the hotspots are, generally speaking, a few counties in a few states in the midwest, Pennsylvania, and more and more Arizona. So they don't really need to do more than pay lip service to any others. Because the data's already told them that the others won't change their votes in any case.

Re:Kiel Institute Analysis: US Americans pay 96% of tariff b... by spiderfarmer on Monday January 19, 2026 @12:12PM (#46681594)
I don’t care about the US anymore but it seems to me it’s always up to the Democrats to be responsible, while Republicans can literally end democracy and turn the country into a pay to play kleptocracy where you can even be intimate with children without consequences or backlash.
Re:Kiel Institute Analysis: US Americans pay 96% of tariff b... by LtWorf on Monday January 19, 2026 @12:13PM (#46681598)
But the democrats are right wing as well…
Re:Kiel Institute Analysis: US Americans pay 96% of tariff b... by ModernMech on Monday January 19, 2026 @03:46PM (#46684273)
> If they cannot articulate such a thing and credibly convince the voter that they will fucking fight for it, they will never win.

People say this but they lost by like 1% in 2024. If that had gone the other way by 1%, people would be talking about what political geniuses they are (as has happened in the past). Winning in this environment just means playing long enough that the noise goes your way eventually, and then everyone talks about what a political mastermind you are. Or if it goes against you then you're forever lost in the political wilderness. Until the next election when it eventually, randomly goes your way again.

Re:Kiel Institute Analysis: US Americans pay 96% of tariff b... by oulipo2 on Monday January 19, 2026 @11:59AM (#46681397)
So you're confirming that EVERYTHING about politics in the US is just... spectacle? a show?

Ideas and modeling no longer matters? What matters is that you're doing a TikTok eating a southern specialty?

Re:Kiel Institute Analysis: US Americans pay 96% of tariff b... by Muromec on Monday January 19, 2026 @12:08PM (#46681513)
It's not like the dems did either of those things.

Spectacles actually matter too. You need to know which one to perform and that requires certain understanding of your audience

Re:Kiel Institute Analysis: US Americans pay 96% of tariff b... by oulipo2 on Tuesday January 20, 2026 @10:07AM (#46692533)
It shouldn't. We should have a society where we treat politics with more deference. But for that, we would need to have long-form content, actual balanced debates on public television, and fight the "attention-span economy" of social networks...
Re:Kiel Institute Analysis: US Americans pay 96% of tariff b... by dmoy on Monday January 19, 2026 @12:27PM (#46681814)
I dunno if that would move the needle. Maybe?

https://news.gallup.com/poll/186248/quarter-voters-say-candi...

But I don't think that one performative step would help, it would require like decades of change on the platform of the Democratic party.

Re:Kiel Institute Analysis: US Americans pay 96% of tariff b... by rkuykendall-com on Monday January 19, 2026 @05:05PM (#46685158)
The Zohran model is to not pretend to be someone different, and exclusively focus on what you believe the core problem to be with a few clearly definable solutions (and no slogans).