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Re:Cloudflare CEO on the Italy Fines by cubefox on Saturday January 10, 2026 @12:23PM (#46567730)
Not sure which premise you disagree with, but the conclusion follows from them.
Re:Cloudflare CEO on the Italy Fines by nkmnz on Saturday January 10, 2026 @12:30PM (#46567803)
I am a Service Provider ("Diensteanbieter") according to DDG and I don't block a single page, which makes your statement not only wrong, but rather so wrong that not even the complete opposite would make any sense.
Re:Cloudflare CEO on the Italy Fines by cubefox on Sunday January 11, 2026 @01:54AM (#46573276)
Not necessarily. Perhaps small service providers are exempt from blocking sci-hub.se. But Cloudflare is certainly not small.
Re:Cloudflare CEO on the Italy Fines by nkmnz on Sunday January 11, 2026 @06:28AM (#46574673)
Have you ever considered reading the law before attempting to discuss it?
Re:Cloudflare CEO on the Italy Fines by cubefox on Sunday January 11, 2026 @10:04AM (#46576308)
You are clearly unable to cite a portion of the law which proves that Cloudflare counts as a service provider.
Re:Cloudflare CEO on the Italy Fines by nkmnz on Sunday January 11, 2026 @12:53PM (#46577838)
§ 1 Absatz 4 Nummer 5 Digitale-Dienste Gesetz: Im Sinne dieses Gesetzes ist oder sind „Diensteanbieter“ Anbieter digitaler Dienste;
Re:Cloudflare CEO on the Italy Fines by cubefox on Sunday January 11, 2026 @01:35PM (#46578310)
That's just stating a tautology.
Re:Cloudflare CEO on the Italy Fines by nkmnz on Sunday January 11, 2026 @06:27PM (#46581638)
No, it's not. It's a very precise way to state that the law has to be applied to a very wide range of service providers. This is a fundamental change compared to the previous regulation TKG. Now take the loss and next time, read the damn manual first.
Re:Cloudflare CEO on the Italy Fines by cubefox on Monday January 12, 2026 @01:58AM (#46585041)
The quote does not decide whether Cloudflare counts as a "service provider" or not.
Re:Cloudflare CEO on the Italy Fines by nkmnz on Monday January 12, 2026 @04:04AM (#46585897)
Oh really… then let’s make it obvious:

1. Do they offer any kind of service? YES.

2. Is the service they offer of a digital nature? Also YES.

It’s never been easier.