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Re:Tailscale state file encryption no longer enabled by default by nottorp on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @03:59PM (#46532656)
Same with passkeys actually.
Re:Tailscale state file encryption no longer enabled by default by SchemaLoad on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @05:09PM (#46533787)
Passkeys get synced between your devices so they aren't any more fragile than passwords in a password manager.
Re:Tailscale state file encryption no longer enabled by default by lsowen on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @05:46PM (#46534287)
Passkeys _may_ be synced, but that isn't guaranteed. For example a "device bound passkey" isn't synced.
Re:Tailscale state file encryption no longer enabled by default by tadfisher on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @06:09PM (#46534555)
There is a project under way to specify how to "sync" device-bound keys between authenticators: https://fidoalliance.org/specs/cx/cxp-v1.0-wd-20241003.html

Ideally this should have been hashed out before deploying passkeys everywhere, but I guess you can always register multiple passkeys for the sites that allow you to.

Re:Tailscale state file encryption no longer enabled by default by nottorp on Thursday January 08, 2026 @03:09AM (#46538564)
Iirc the original idea was that passkeys should be device specific. Of course that's impractical so now they're morphing to a long password that a human can't process.

In a few years someone will post "how about a long human retainable passphrase?" as a new and improved discovery.

Re:Tailscale state file encryption no longer enabled by default by SchemaLoad on Thursday January 08, 2026 @06:55PM (#46548239)
They are still different to a password in that the service you are logging in to never gets the private key. So in the case the database gets compromised, if the service provider ensures no edits were made / restores a backup, there is no need to change your passkey since it was never exposed.
Re:Tailscale state file encryption no longer enabled by default by yencabulator on Tuesday January 13, 2026 @12:12PM (#46604034)
Re:Tailscale state file encryption no longer enabled by default by 0cf8612b2e1e on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @06:04PM (#46534508)
The big providers only want themselves to be able to backup passkeys. I do not want to handover my secrets to Apple/Microsoft/Google.
Re:Tailscale state file encryption no longer enabled by default by lilyball on Thursday January 08, 2026 @01:27PM (#46544566)
Apple Keychain syncing is end-to-end encrypted, Apple cannot see the contents of your synced keychain.