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Re:Vienam Bans Unskippable Ads, Requires Skip Button to Appe... by barbazoo on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @12:54PM (#46515853)
Is there not always some sort "marketplace" where people see what's being offered one way or another?

I don't think we need ads for discovery, I see it more as a nefarious way to occupy space in people's conscious.

Re:Vienam Bans Unskippable Ads, Requires Skip Button to Appe... by pixl97 on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @12:59PM (#46515930)
>Is there not always some sort "marketplace"

How exactly does that work for virtual products?

Re:Vienam Bans Unskippable Ads, Requires Skip Button to Appe... by TeMPOraL on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @01:13PM (#46516154)
Catalogs - offline and on-line, commercial and government. Deprived of constant noise and overstimulation of advertising, people will actively seek such information out, whether because they have a problem to solve, or just out of curiosity. All we're talking about here is switching from current "push" model of advertising back to "pull" model.

Who here never browsed a product or company catalog they found, just because they were curious?

Re:Vienam Bans Unskippable Ads, Requires Skip Button to Appe... by barbazoo on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @01:16PM (#46516218)
I can almost feel the calm just imagining the world you're describing.
Re:Vienam Bans Unskippable Ads, Requires Skip Button to Appe... by barbazoo on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @01:11PM (#46516131)
Not that I ever use it but there are apparently services like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_Hunt people use to seek out new products.

But as sibling comment said, if it's really good, people will find it eventually.

Re:Vienam Bans Unskippable Ads, Requires Skip Button to Appe... by satvikpendem on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @03:09PM (#46517917)
Funny you mention Product Hunt because it's pay-to-play too, there was a whole controversy a decade ago exactly now: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10739875
Re:Vienam Bans Unskippable Ads, Requires Skip Button to Appe... by cramsession on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @01:02PM (#46515998)
If they provide value, people will seek them out.
Re:Vienam Bans Unskippable Ads, Requires Skip Button to Appe... by taffer on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @07:41PM (#46521011)
How? If you don't advertise, no one can see you.
Re:Vienam Bans Unskippable Ads, Requires Skip Button to Appe... by tcfhgj on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @10:11AM (#46527255)
Just one counter example: gh.de
Re:Vienam Bans Unskippable Ads, Requires Skip Button to Appe... by taffer on Monday January 12, 2026 @08:23AM (#46588146)
Not really a counter example: gh.de is a pure advertising platform.
Re:Vienam Bans Unskippable Ads, Requires Skip Button to Appe... by cramsession on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @10:12AM (#46527278)
If I need something, I’ll find it.
Re:Vienam Bans Unskippable Ads, Requires Skip Button to Appe... by barbazoo on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @10:53AM (#46527807)
How did people that had something to sell do it before advertising?

The problem again is greed. The organic way is too inefficient so advertising needs to come in and make people rich instead of letting the product do the convincing naturally, word of mouth and so on.

Re:Vienam Bans Unskippable Ads, Requires Skip Button to Appe... by taffer on Monday January 12, 2026 @08:28AM (#46588194)
Advertising is as old as humanity itself. Asking what people did before advertising doesn't make sense.

Also, word-of-mouth advertising is, as the name suggests, a form of advertising.