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Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by jrjeksjd8d on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @09:17AM (#46512539)
Subscriptions have a "boiling frog" phenomenon where a marginal price increase isn't noticable to most people. Our payment rails are so effective many people don't even read their credit card statements, they just have vampires draining their accounts monthly.

Starting with a low subscription price also has the effect of atrophying people's ability to self-serve. The alternative to a subscription is usually capital-intensive - if you want to cancel Netflix you need to have a DVD collection. If you want to cancel your thin client you have to build a PC. Most modern consumers live on a knife edge where $20/month isn't perceptible but $1000 is a major expense.

The classic VC-backed model is to subsidize the subscription until people become complacent, and then increase the price once they're dependent. People who self-host are nutjobs because the cloud alternative is "cheaper and better" until it stops being cheaper.

Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by bee_rider on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @11:02AM (#46514044)
> The alternative to a subscription is usually capital-intensive - if you want to cancel Netflix you need to have a DVD collection.

I did Apple Music and Amazon Music. The experience of losing “my” streaming library twice totally turned me off these kinds of services. Instead I do Pandora, and just buy music when I (rarely) find something I totally love and want to listen to on repeat. The inability to build a library in the streaming service that I incorrectly think of as “mine” is a big feature, keeps my mental model aligned with reality.

Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by vel0city on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @11:29AM (#46514460)
I do wish these services would have an easier method to import/export playlists and collections. But that would make it easier to leave, so its not going to happen.
Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by tanjtanjtanj on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @11:37AM (#46514577)
I don’t know about Amazon but having migrated to/from both Spotify and Apple Music they are both ludicrously easy to export playlists/libraries from.
Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by galleywest200 on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @11:36AM (#46514551)
At least with Apple Music you can cmd-a cmd-c cmd-v playlists into a CSV file or something.
Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by rvnx on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @11:59AM (#46514905)
Yet you can't search anything unless you have a 100% exact match
Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by Y_Y on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @09:38AM (#46512814)
My bank has an option to send me a notification every time I'm charged for something. I've noticed several bills that were higher than they should have been "due to a technical error". I'm certain some companies rely on people not checking and randomly add "errors".

Notably there's no way (known to me) that you can have direct debits sent as requests that aren't automatically paid. I think that would put consumers on an equal footing with businesses though, which is obviously bad for the economy.

Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by esafak on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @10:43AM (#46513706)
If it's random surely you'd get a discount sometimes!
Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by speff on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @12:23PM (#46515352)
Wasn’t aware about charge notifications. Looks like my bank supports that - thanks for the info!
Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by usernameak on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @12:26PM (#46515399)
> My bank has an option to send me a notification every time I'm charged for something.

Wait, your bank doesn't do that by default? I've always assumed it's default behavior of most banks.

Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by SoftTalker on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @01:38PM (#46516534)
It's normally an option in my experience. I have mine set for charges over $100. I don't want a notification every time I buy gas (I do check my statements every month though).
Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by cortesoft on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @03:50PM (#46518493)
What is the harm in being notified when you buy gas? It doesn’t hurt anything, and I DO want to be notified if someone else buys gas on my card!

The discussion started as a way to avoid forgetting to cancel subscriptions or to catch subscription price increases; if you are setting your limit to $100, you aren’t going to be seeing charges for almost all your subscriptions.

I have my minimum set to $0, so I see all the charges. Helpful reminder when I see a $8 charge for something I forgot to cancel.

Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by bigstrat2003 on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @04:35PM (#46519158)
Alert fatigue. Most people, if they get an alert for every single purchase they make, will learn to ignore the alerts as they are useless 99% of the time. Then when an alert comes through that would be useful, they won't see that either.

Anyone who has had the misfortune to work on monitoring systems knows the very fine line you have to walk when choosing what alerts to send. Too few, or too many, and the system becomes useless.

Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by cortesoft on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @06:18PM (#46520262)
As I said, I have my alert set to $0 and it really hasn’t caused fatigue. For one thing, when it is something i just purchased, the alert is basically just a confirmation that the purchase went through. I close it immediately and move on.

If I get an alert and I didn’t buy anything, it makes me think about it. Often times it just reminds me of a subscription I have, and I take the moment the think if I still need it or not. If I start feeling like I am getting a lot of that kind of alert, I need to reevaluate the number of subscriptions I have.

If I get an alert and I don’t immediately recognize the source (the alert will say the amount and who it is charged to), it certainly makes me pause and try to figure out what it is, and that has not been “alert fatigued” away from me even after 10+ years of these alerts.

Basically, if I get an alert when I didn’t literally JUST make a purchase, it is worth looking into.

I dont think it causes alert fatigue; I am not getting a bunch of false alerts throughout my day, because I shouldn’t be having random charges appear if I am not actively buying something.

Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by cortesoft on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @03:47PM (#46518447)
You had to opt in for my bank, and choose a minimum amount to be notified for. I chose $0, so I get notified for everything.
Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by paganholiday on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @11:28AM (#46514440)
Sure but modern cloud subscriptions have a lot of service layers you otherwise won't pay for so effectively you may be buying the hardware yearly that's a lot different than renting a media collection that would be assembled over a lifetime for the price of one new item a month.
Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by vel0city on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @09:47AM (#46512899)
> if you want to cancel Netflix you need to have a DVD collection

You don't need a whole DVD collection to cancel Netflix, even ignoring piracy. Go to a cheaper streaming service, pick a free/ad supported one, go grab media from the library, etc. Grab a Blu-Ray from the discount bin at the store once in a while, and your collection will grow.

Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by SoftTalker on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @01:40PM (#46516570)
Music is different, but I never understood buying movies. Once I see a movie, I've seen it. I very rarely watch a movie more than once.
Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by elbear on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @02:28PM (#46517301)
Maybe you would, if you bought it.
Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by SoftTalker on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @02:34PM (#46517401)
No, I do own some (actually it was more in the VHS days so tapes) and I just found that I never really watched them again. So I stopped buying movies. I'm the same with books. Once I read it, I've read it. I would rarely read a novel twice. I know what's going to happen, so what's the point? Reference books are different of course.
Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by bigstrat2003 on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @04:47PM (#46519348)
You're not really thinking this through enough. The exact same logic you used can be applied to music: once you've listened to the album once, you know how it will go, so what's the point of listening again? Presumably you do get something out of listening to music again (since you said you do listen to it more than once), so whatever that "something" is... you can infer that others get similar value out of rereading books/rewatching movies, even if you personally don't.

For myself, the answer is "because the story is still enjoyable even if I know how it will end". And often enough, on a second reading/viewing I will discover nuances to the work I didn't the first time. Some works are so well made that even having enjoyed it 10+ times, I can discover something new about it! So yes, the pleasure of experiencing the story the first time can only be had once. But that is by no means the only pleasure to be had.

Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by vel0city on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @05:14PM (#46519597)
> The exact same logic you used can be applied to music: once you've listened to the album once, you know how it will go, so what's the point of listening again?

Most music doesn't have the same kind of narrative and strong plot that stories like novels and movies do, this is a massive difference. And even if it does, it doesn't usually take a half hour or more to do such a change. That's a pretty big difference about the types of art.

Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by officeplant on Friday January 09, 2026 @01:43PM (#46557418)
Some of us just consume media differently I suppose. I'm a big fan of going back to re-read/re-watch a lot of my favorite media. Sometimes it's because it got a new volume/season/movie came out years later so I'll take time to re-experience the original media to get ready for it. Never really had an issue experiencing something again and having it feel fresh because its been a few years.

I will admit that re-reading books has become less of a habit the older I get because it is time consuming to get through a longer series again.

Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by elbear on Friday January 09, 2026 @01:54PM (#46557560)
I'm mostly the same, I don't watch movies twice. But there are exceptions. Some movies are just beautiful or I like how they make me feel, so I want to rewatch them. Groundhog Day is an example.
Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by vel0city on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @03:03PM (#46517841)
I've bought a ton of movies in the past. The vast majority I've sold second hand or thrown away because I just didn't care to watch again and I didn't feel like storing something I'd never use forever.

Same goes for a lot of other media. Some amount of it I'll want to keep but most is practically disposable to me. Even most videogames.

Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by jrjeksjd8d on Friday January 09, 2026 @08:46AM (#46553755)
It really depends on the movies you're watching and how you watch them. I've watched "It Follows" like 4 times in the past year to show it to different people. I would watch The Shining every year at Halloween, and It's a Wonderful Life at Christmas. On the other hand, sometimes you just want to throw on one of your comforting favorite movies in the background.

There's also a media preservation angle - you can imagine the monopoly media companies of the next decade not wanting to stream "My Own Private Idaho" or "Female Trouble".

Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by SecretDreams on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @09:49AM (#46512932)
> Subscriptions have a "boiling frog" phenomenon where a marginal price increase isn't noticable to most people.

This is so apt and well stated. It echos my sentiment, but I hadn't thought to use the boiling frog metaphor. My own organs are definitely feeling a bit toastier lately.

Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by KumaBear on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @03:35AM (#46523990)
This is something I’ve been seeing for a while. As a teen that kept his 300 dollar paycheck in cash that money would last a very long time. Now I make a good 6 figures and was seeing my accounts spending way more than I should. It wasn’t big purchases it was 50 dollars here 200 hundred there. A subscription here and there. By the end of the month I would wrack 8k in spending.

Going line by line I learned how much I neglected these transactions being the source of my problem. Could I afford it? Yes. But saving and investing is a better vehicle for retirement early than these minor dopamine hits

Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by nacozarina on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @10:50PM (#46536981)
the best con of all is convincing ppl they need Hollywood in their lives to be happy
Re:AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren'... by RiverCrochet on Monday January 12, 2026 @03:28PM (#46593838)
You can only boil the frog until it dies. If there isn't a true dependency relationship then at some point the industry will die.

In the 2010's, when short on money, I noticed my cable+Internet package was above $200. I took a look at things and cut the TV service, keeping the Internet.

Movies and theaters thought they were untouchable until they weren't. Games can keep increasing their subscription fees until people just stop playing them. There was a world before video games, after all.