Not arguing about other nations actions, just a reminder that if you apply many western logic indiscriminately, the resulting bad actors are very different.

9/11 did not come out of a vaccumm

Unfortunately, everyday Americans' security is deeply impacted by the clowns with office desks in DC, since the 1990s.

It's not lost on me that I may lose living relatives living in the US because of Kissinger playing RISK for a living, back in the day.

Just as the clowns in government made horrible decisions and should potentially be legally in jeopardy for them, I can also say they are getting the venezuela one, right (at least for now).

The clowns and the reasons that drive them are the same for Middle East and Venezuela. Does it make it any better that they happened to have a casus belli that you or I may sympathesize with, given that the reasons not in line with our values? Even a broken clock is right once a day.

So i chose my words wrong.

I'd argue that a state of war already existed, well before the events in the gulf. It just didn't involve formal military movements.