Linux is good now; to feel like you actually own your PC, put Linux on it

Re:Linux is good now; to feel like you actually own your PC,... by Daunk on Thursday January 01, 2026 @06:51PM (#46459581)

I'm not against Wayland, but I think Wayland is currently not good for the Linux ecosystem. I've had lots of friends try Linux, and they've had issues with Discord global keyboard shortcuts not working, and window positions not restoring at application start, and lots of other small issues, which add up in the end. But once they switched to X11, they've all been very happy.

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Re:Linux is good now; to feel like you actually own your PC,... by 3form on Thursday January 01, 2026 @07:16PM (#46459785)

Which desktop environment do your friends use?

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Re:Linux is good now; to feel like you actually own your PC,... by Daunk on Thursday January 01, 2026 @08:25PM (#46460325)

They started with Hyprland, GNOME or KDE Plasma. Most of them have ended up using Cinnamon, and the rest use XFCE.

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Re:Linux is good now; to feel like you actually own your PC,... by willis936 on Thursday January 01, 2026 @10:08PM (#46460971)

hyprland is a fun spectacle, but takes insane effort to make remotely livable. Also any apparent shortcut (dotfiles) will do nasty damage to your install. Anyone hypr-curious should sandbox in an install they don't mind wiping.

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Re:Linux is good now; to feel like you actually own your PC,... by philajan on Thursday January 01, 2026 @10:45PM (#46461190)

I’m really curious about your experience, what distro you used hyprland on, what dotfiles did damage to your install etc.

I just installed hyprland yesterday and outside of having to switch back to i3 once to install what they had set for a terminal in their default config(kitty), I haven’t had to leave again.

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Re:Linux is good now; to feel like you actually own your PC,... by throw2312321 on Friday January 02, 2026 @01:46AM (#46462096)

What does hyprland offer over i3?

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Re:Linux is good now; to feel like you actually own your PC,... by philajan on Friday January 02, 2026 @10:37AM (#46465779)

From my experience, nice decorations. I haven't gone further than getting a top bar set up and getting my normal shortcuts setup.

I'm sure I'm not getting everything everything I could out of it.

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Re:Linux is good now; to feel like you actually own your PC,... by willis936 on Friday January 02, 2026 @04:48AM (#46463177)

Asahi and hyde. "Nasty damage" isn't irreparable, but it would be significant effort to enumerate every small touch that affects defaults from other DEs and restore them. There is no "restore all touched configs to default" afaik. Since my asahi install was a lightly used toy anyway I just reinstalled. My next attempt will be with a VM that I make image backups of.

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Re:Linux is good now; to feel like you actually own your PC,... by wpm on Thursday January 01, 2026 @07:38PM (#46459967)

"window positions not restoring at application start"

Well you see, you are actually just silly for wanting this or asking for this, because it's actually just a security flaw...or something. I will not elaborate further.

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Re:Linux is good now; to feel like you actually own your PC,... by Daunk on Thursday January 01, 2026 @08:26PM (#46460331)

Spot on.

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Re:Linux is good now; to feel like you actually own your PC,... by willis936 on Thursday January 01, 2026 @10:05PM (#46460951)

--geometry is an exploit that will end in your financial ruin. Spend your weekend figuring out which tiling manager and dbus commands will come close to approximating a replacement before giving up and realizing you can manually move windows for the rest of your life. Two plus two is five.

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Re:Linux is good now; to feel like you actually own your PC,... by preisschild on Friday January 02, 2026 @09:13AM (#46464916)

Thats not true. You are mistaking allowing the application itself to set window position, which obviously is a security flaw.

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Re:Linux is good now; to feel like you actually own your PC,... by vbezhenar on Friday January 02, 2026 @11:31AM (#46466447)

Is it sarcasm?

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Re:Linux is good now; to feel like you actually own your PC,... by ryukoposting on Thursday January 01, 2026 @09:29PM (#46460732)

Yup. I fully understand that X11 is a shitshow under the hood, but it works and Wayland frequently does not work. Screen recording, window positions, various multi-monitor and calibration issues, ...

On my laptop I use to write blog posts, that never ever gets plugged into a second screen? Sure, Wayland's great. On a computer that I expect normal people to be able to use without dumb problems? Hell no!

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Re:Linux is good now; to feel like you actually own your PC,... by cedws on Friday January 02, 2026 @12:02AM (#46461587)

Comparing X11 and Wayland isn’t even correct because for a functional desktop you need Xwayland anyway. X11 never went away, we piled more code on top and now we have an eternal transitionary period and two ways of doing things.

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Re:Linux is good now; to feel like you actually own your PC,... by semilin on Thursday January 01, 2026 @09:36PM (#46460775)

I think Wayland is good for more technical users. Going from i3 to sway or bspwm to river feels like essentially nothing has changed. On the other hand, Gnome X11 to Wayland might be a bigger shock.

Unfortunately, Wayland inherently can't be like Pipewire, which instantly solved basically 90% of audio issues on Linux through its compatibility with Pulseaudio, while having (in my experience) zero drawbacks. If someone could make the equivalent of Pipewire for X11, that'd be nice. Probably far-fetched though.

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Re:Linux is good now; to feel like you actually own your PC,... by aidenn0 on Thursday January 01, 2026 @11:42PM (#46461493)

It can absolutely be like that. Global keyboard shortcuts not working is a deliberate design choice in Wayland (as is non-foreground apps not having access to the clipboard).

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Re:Linux is good now; to feel like you actually own your PC,... by tigrezno on Friday January 02, 2026 @05:14AM (#46463340)

Gnome is bringing global shortcuts AFAIK in the next stable version

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Re:Linux is good now; to feel like you actually own your PC,... by akka47 on Friday January 02, 2026 @11:48AM (#46466628)

Yeah but now everything's platform-specific. We'll have a KDE version, a Gnome version, a wlroots version, ...

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Re:Linux is good now; to feel like you actually own your PC,... by aidenn0 on Friday January 02, 2026 @01:39PM (#46467890)

I bet dollars-to-donuts it won't work with X11 apps

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Re:Linux is good now; to feel like you actually own your PC,... by bigyabai on Friday January 02, 2026 @06:52PM (#46470998)

There's no reason it couldn't.

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Re:Linux is good now; to feel like you actually own your PC,... by aidenn0 on Monday January 05, 2026 @03:12PM (#46504192)

Yes there is; Xwayland won't support it.

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Re:Linux is good now; to feel like you actually own your PC,... by bigyabai on Monday January 05, 2026 @11:49PM (#46508851)

So what? Xwayland doesn't support file selectors, but XDG has a portal that handles it fine.

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Re:Linux is good now; to feel like you actually own your PC,... by jcgl on Saturday January 03, 2026 @05:54PM (#46482566)

I can’t speak to the GNOME side of things, but I’ve been enjoying global shortcuts on KDE Wayland for years now. No issues to report whatsoever.

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