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Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question... by johnnyanmac on Tuesday December 30, 2025 @10:28PM (#46440962)
OpenAI collapses and MSFT tanks. Microsoft shareholders aren't quite that dumb.

And that's ignoring the dominoes of other AI firms being pulled out of because OpenAi falters.

Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question... by OGEnthusiast on Tuesday December 30, 2025 @10:43PM (#46441042)
> Microsoft shareholders aren't quite that dumb.

If they aren't dumb, why are they investing in MSFT now then if it's a bubble that's doomed to fail? And even in the worst case scenario, a 10-15% decline in the S&P 500 won't trigger the next Great Depression. (Keep in mind that we already had a ~20% drawdown in public equities during the interest rate hikes of 2022/2023 and the economy remained pretty robust throughout.)

Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question... by johnnyanmac on Tuesday December 30, 2025 @10:52PM (#46441080)
Like I said, they aren't "that" dumb. They are playing a risky game, but when they see the number go down rapidly they will pull. Which will make the line go down even faster.

>And even in the worst case scenario, a 10-15% decline in the S&P 500 won't trigger the next Great Depression

Only if you believe the 10% decline won't domino and that the S&P500 is secluded from the rest of the global economy. I wish I shared your optimism.

> and the economy remained pretty robust throughout.

Yeah and we voted the person who orchestrated that out. We don't have the money to pump trillions back in a 2nd time in such a short time. Something's gonna give, and soon.

Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question... by OGEnthusiast on Tuesday December 30, 2025 @11:00PM (#46441115)
> Only if you believe the 10% decline won't domino and that the S&P500 is secluded from the rest of the global economy. I wish I shared your optimism.

So your hypothesis is that a 10% decline in the S&P 500 will trigger the next Great Depression, i.e. years of negative GDP growth and unemployment? I agree that it could cause a slight economic slowdown, but I don't think AI and tech stocks are a large enough part of the economy to cause a Great Depression-style catastrophe.

Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question... by johnnyanmac on Tuesday December 30, 2025 @11:35PM (#46441314)
>So your hypothesis is that a 10% decline in the S&P 500 will trigger the next Great Depression, i.e. years of negative GDP growth and unemployment?

Yup. I won't say it's the only factor, nor biggest. But I'm focusing on this topic and not 40+ years of government economic abandonment of the working class. It's the straw that will break the camel's back.

Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question... by samiv on Wednesday December 31, 2025 @07:20AM (#46443530)
The problem is that the non AI economy is already in the toilet. The consumer and commodities markets are all flashing red. Consumer debt is all time high. Inflation is still punishing the bottom end of workers severely and the ACA cuts will cause a lot of financial stress (unless people of course discountinue their plans)

An expected outcome from a AI blowout is the uncertainty and everyone holding onto their assets and credit recalls plus interest rate hikes.

During the great depression it wasn't the stock market collapse that caused it as much as it was the credit crunch that followed. Prior to the blowout people literally bought stocks on credit.