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Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question... by xivzgrev on Tuesday December 30, 2025 @10:08PM (#46440844)
Not to mention security. I'd trust Google more not to have a data breach than open AI / whomever. Email accounts are hugely valuable but I haven't seen a Google data breach in the 20+ years I've been using them. This matters because I don't want my chats out there in public.

Also integration with other services. I just had Gemini summarize the contents of a Google Drive folder and it was effortless & effective

Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question... by mootothemax on Tuesday December 30, 2025 @11:17PM (#46441206)
While I don’t disagree with you, for historical purposes I think it’s important to highlight why google started its push for 100% wire encryption everywhere all the time:

The NSA and GHCQ and basically every TLA with the ability to tap a fibre cable had figured out the gap in Google’s armour: Google’s datacenter backhaul links were unencrypted. Tap into them, and you get _everything_.

I’ve no idea whether Snowdon’s leaks were a revelation or a confirmation for google themselves; either way, it’s arguably a total breach.

Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question... by jedberg on Wednesday December 31, 2025 @02:23AM (#46442154)
When I worked at PayPal back in 2003/4, one of the things we did (and I think we were the first) was encrypt the datacenter backhaul connections. This was on top of encrypting all the traffic between machines. It added a lot of expense and overhead, but security was important enough to justify it.
Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question... by guelo on Wednesday December 31, 2025 @04:47AM (#46442759)
And yet Venmo, a Paypal company, publishes transaction data publicly by default, no need to decrypt anything ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question... by hrimfaxi on Wednesday December 31, 2025 @07:13AM (#46443491)
Venmo publishes raw unencrypted transaction data? Or are you referring to their social network features?
Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question... by matkoniecz on Wednesday December 31, 2025 @10:54AM (#46445212)
where?
Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question... by why-o-why on Wednesday December 31, 2025 @12:01AM (#46441455)
Is Google even required to inform you of a data breach?
Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question... by bjt on Wednesday December 31, 2025 @12:29AM (#46441657)
They're subject to California law, so yeah.

https://oag.ca.gov/privacy/databreach/reporting

Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question... by dilyevsky on Wednesday December 31, 2025 @01:41AM (#46441977)
Not that I disagree with your assessment but in the spirit of hn pedantry - google had a very significant breach where gmail was a primary target and that was “only” 16 years ago in mid 2009. So bad that it has its own wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Aurora
Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question... by charcircuit on Wednesday December 31, 2025 @03:59AM (#46442548)
>very significant breach

That page says it was only 2 accounts and none of the messages within the mail was accessed. I wouldn't call that very significant.