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Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question... by senshan on Tuesday December 30, 2025 @07:21PM (#46439901)
> It's mathematically impossible what OpenAI is promising

Citation is needed

Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question... by testing22321 on Tuesday December 30, 2025 @07:37PM (#46440004)
Don’t that have to make more money in the next 10 years than any company ever has… and that is just to break even.

It’s going to crash, guaranteed

Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question... by senshan on Tuesday December 30, 2025 @07:44PM (#46440041)
It is the term "mathematically impossible" that caught my attention. Since it is about the future promise of OpenAI, one could debate the likelihood or "statistically improbable", but "mathematically impossible" implies some calculation, proof and certainty. Hence my curiosity.
Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question... by CharlieDigital on Tuesday December 30, 2025 @08:30PM (#46440302)
I've seen some calculation I think from an HSBC analyst that it would take a monthly subscription of $200/mo. from some large portion of the US population for some insane number of years to break even.
Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question... by Aurornis on Tuesday December 30, 2025 @08:55PM (#46440463)
> from some large portion of the US population

What a silly calculation.

OpenAI’s customer base is global. Using US population as the customer base is deliberately missing the big picture. The world population is more than 20X larger than the US population.

It’s also obvious that they’re selling heavily to businesses, not consumers. It’s not reasonable to expect consumers to drive demand for these services.

Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question... by johnnyanmac on Tuesday December 30, 2025 @09:38PM (#46440717)
>OpenAI’s customer base is global.

I'd be willing to bet that, like many US websites, OpenAI's users are at lest 60% American. Just because there's 20x more people out there doesn't mean they have the same exposure to American products.

For instance, China is an obvious one. So that's 35%+ of the population already mostly out of consideration.

>It’s also obvious that they’re selling heavily to businesses, not consumers.

I don't think a few thousand companies can outspend 200m users paying $200 a month. I won't call it a "mathematical impossibility", but the math also isn't math-ing here.

Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question... by Marsymars on Wednesday December 31, 2025 @02:04AM (#46442074)
Even if you grant that OpenAI might be as successful as Apple at international expansion and support, that’s still only a non-US market about double the size of the US market.
Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question... by consp on Wednesday December 31, 2025 @01:23AM (#46441907)
> OpenAI’s customer base is global.

Since when is English everyone's primary language?

Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question... by eisfresser on Wednesday December 31, 2025 @03:57AM (#46442536)
ChatGPT is totally fluid in German and French (i.e.), their market size is my no means limited to the anglosphere.