Re:Honey's Dieselgate: Detecting and tricking testers
by choult on Tuesday December 30, 2025 @06:49PM
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It's comparing Honey's behavior to a well-known and comprehended scandal. Simile is a tried and tested way (hah!) to explain otherwise potentially hard to understand or dry content.
It's not about the severity of the impact, its the fact that they were breaking the rules and explicitly coding to actively avoid being caught by testers.
Re:Honey's Dieselgate: Detecting and tricking testers
by collingreen on Tuesday December 30, 2025 @08:27PM
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Probably better to compare to ubers grayball although that may be less well known.
Re:Honey's Dieselgate: Detecting and tricking testers
by Dylan16807 on Tuesday December 30, 2025 @10:24PM
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Refusing service (and showing a fake status screen) is in the same ballpark, but dieselgate is a much closer match. They couldn't avoid being put under test, so they had separate behavior based on whether heuristics said it was in a testing environment.
Re:Honey's Dieselgate: Detecting and tricking testers
by bedelman on Wednesday December 31, 2025 @12:44AM
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choult: The factors you mention are the factors that led me to propose the "Honey's Dieselgate" title and to compare Honey to VW.
Of course I agree that health is more important than affiliate commissions. So the comparison only goes so far.
Re:Honey's Dieselgate: Detecting and tricking testers
by choult on Wednesday December 31, 2025 @06:24AM
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Thanks for your contribution to this Ben - I was quite stunned by Megalag's finding, and I agree with you that it could definitely be characterized as wire fraud.
I think the very interesting wrinkle here is that, for the most part, their victims are corporations - meaning, sadly, that it's much more likely they will be prosecuted, either in civil or criminal court.
Re:Honey's Dieselgate: Detecting and tricking testers
by salawat on Tuesday December 30, 2025 @10:38PM
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These are the same types who have poisoned the well of information that was the Internet you can actually find things on for the sake of the ad driven model. Far as I'm concerned, the moral injuries are the same even if the physical details are different.
"Who gets a kickback on this toothbrush" is a much MUCH less important question than "do you pollute the air we are all breathing".