Re:Toll roads are spreading in America
by pclmulqdq on Saturday December 27, 2025 @06:51PM
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Semi trucks pay huge amounts in gas taxes because they guzzle gas like nobody's business. It's only the EVs that aren't paying for their road wear in gas taxes.
Re:Toll roads are spreading in America
by vel0city on Saturday December 27, 2025 @07:00PM
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20,000x more in taxes?
Re:Toll roads are spreading in America
by turkeyboi on Saturday December 27, 2025 @07:33PM
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Realistically speaking, they probably do. Do you know how much fuel they use and miles they drive per year?
Re:Toll roads are spreading in America
by vel0city on Saturday December 27, 2025 @08:43PM
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Average class 8 truck (>33,000lbs) burns under 11,000GGEa year, ratio is 1GGE=1.13gal of diesel. So somewhere under 12,500gal of diesel on average, but we'll use that to lean even more in the truck's favor.
https://afdc.energy.gov/data/10308
Are you suggesting the average car burns less than 1 gallon of gas a year?
A 20mpg car driving 12,500mi (the average ICE in the US) would use 625gal of gas. So more like 20x, maybe 40x if the per gallon tax of diesel is double. Pretty dang far off from 20,000x.
And they're doing way more miles while being massively heavier, meaning incredibly more harm on the road than whatever EV you're thinking.
Re:Toll roads are spreading in America
by dredmorbius on Saturday December 27, 2025 @09:12PM
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GGE: Gasoline gallon equivalent
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_gallon_equivalent>
(Most tractor-trailor rigs burn diesel rather than petrol.)
> If your actual mileage is over 15625/year, then you're paying less than the equivalent.
The average is less than that by a decent bit, so more than half of US cars are paying more even with your unproven, contorted math based on some estimates done once in the 70s and never really looked into closely again.
It's also assuming the difference in weight. The closest hybrid I would have bought instead is only like 100kg lighter than my EV. And it gets like 40mpg, better than 35mpg.
It would also mean semi trucks should pay like 20,000x more in registration fees. Does this make sense?
> What's your annual mileage?
Less than 15k on that car (like most people), so even with your assumed math it's overpaying.