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Re:Zynga stock plummets below value of its cash and real estate by ori_b on Wednesday October 10, 2012 @08:56PM (#4638906)
The difference is in the expectations. In in a minimum wage job, there's no equity. You're not expecting to cash out in stock if an acquisition goes well, and there's no opportunity for the people at the top to manipulate things so that they can cash out and leave you with junk stock.

If you get a minimum wage job, you know what the deal is. If you get equity, it's reasonable to expect that you won't get screwed over completely.

Is it fair? That's a very different question.

Re:Zynga stock plummets below value of its cash and real estate by greedo on Wednesday October 10, 2012 @10:04PM (#4639040)
It's 2012. Anyone who sincerely expects options to vest without dilution and other shenanigans is naive at best. Been there, done that in 2000 and 2004.
Re:Zynga stock plummets below value of its cash and real estate by phishphood on Wednesday October 10, 2012 @11:15PM (#4639194)
been there done that. Had stock options not from one, not two, but three startups in dot coms. Worked 60 hrs week - to the bone. Came through with nothing, actually lost money because in one of the startup I had to buy out my options and it came with a large tax bill for some reason
Re:Zynga stock plummets below value of its cash and real estate by vidarh on Thursday October 11, 2012 @04:12AM (#4639963)
> I had to buy out my options and it came with a large tax bill for some reason

This usually happens if your option has a strike price lower than the market price at the time they're issued, in which case depending on jurisdiction they difference will usually be taxed as income on exercise. If you're really unlucky about where you are and how the options are arranged, you might even get taxed based on the market price on exercise. E.g. Norway at least used to be that way a while back unless you took specific precautions to get the options issued under an approved scheme.

It's something to be aware of, as it means a lot of people might not be able to afford to exercise the options before they're ready to sell the shares, which means your total gains gets taxed as income most places (as opposed to if you see the company on a nice upwards trajectory and exercise and wait, in which case you may end up paying only capital gains and in some cases depending on where you are might end up paying reduced capital gains rates on the growth from your exercised onwards). The difference between a good and bad options plan can easily be 50%+ tax (e.g. UK, if you're careless you might pay 53.8% - top rate income tax + national insurance + employers national insurance contributions, vs. 10% if your company qualifies for certain incentive schemes for startups and the options plan is structured right..)

It might seem great to have a really low strike price, but if you expect to be in it for the long haul and might contemplate exercising options before you're ready to sell your shares, talk to a tax lawyer before agreeing to options terms.

Re:Zynga stock plummets below value of its cash and real estate by alexkus on Thursday October 11, 2012 @07:02AM (#4640291)
For those in the UK you need to read and understand the implications of Mansworth vs Jelley as it could save you a chunk of Capital Gains Tax (or allow you to carry forward a capital loss to offset future CGT).
Re:Zynga stock plummets below value of its cash and real estate by GFischer on Thursday October 11, 2012 @08:34AM (#4640495)
That's why it's an intelligent move by Starbucks to let baristas own stock, it creates raised expectations and makes them literally invested in the company's success.