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Re:US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is ... by blahedo on Monday December 22, 2025 @03:11PM (#46358433)
I've been wondering all year about what happens when an executive-branch office issues orders that it is not legally qualified to issue; by and large everybody has just... followed them. This may be another example (I don't know quite enough of the legal specifics in this case, though there are certainly others that are more slam-dunk-y in this respect).

What are the enforcement mechanisms here if the states in question---MA, RI, CT, NY, NJ, and VA---just said "no go ahead, keep building"? What happens to the companies if they just keep building? I'm not saying they should but at this point rule-of-law has fallen apart so badly that I literally don't know what happens when the government invents a new rule and people just... disregard it. (Particularly if state-level enforcement decides not to play along.) Do they bring in the FBI? Military?

Re:US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is ... by jrmg on Monday December 22, 2025 @03:34PM (#46358718)
Short term punishment for states: ICE and the National Guard get sent into cities to make people feel unsafe, under the guise of an ‘immigration emergency’. Perhaps also Marines!

To punish more fully, just illegally withhold federal funds for whatever is most hurtful. Highways? Education? Healthcare?

And to your direct point, I’m sure someone could whip up a reason for the military to take over and shut down the sites if they don’t comply - this _is_ a national security matter after all.

Court system stops any of that? Just comply (or pretend to) with the letter of the ruling and try another barely-distinguishable but arguably different illegal method for the next few months while the sheep’s of the court system grind.

What is _meant_ to stop the executive branch (meant to ‘execute’ the will of congress, not just follow its own desires) going rogue is impeachment by congress, but that seems like a far off prospect.

Re:US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is ... by amanaplanacanal on Monday December 22, 2025 @04:29PM (#46359326)
Midterms are coming up next year.
Re:US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is ... by consumer451 on Monday December 22, 2025 @04:31PM (#46359355)
Don't worry, there is a plan. CNN will be in new hands by that point. Reddit's r/all will be, or already is gone from the app's defaults, and much more to come!
Re:US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is ... by ta9000 on Monday December 22, 2025 @04:53PM (#46359590)
I don’t even know liberals that watch CNN. It’s already irrelevant.
Re:US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is ... by consumer451 on Monday December 22, 2025 @05:17PM (#46359834)
If it was truly irrelevant, then there wouldn't be billions being thrown at it.
Re:US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is ... by Tostino on Monday December 22, 2025 @05:48PM (#46360122)
It's the airport TV's and doctor's office waiting rooms that they are bidding for at this point.
Re:US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is ... by mgiampapa on Monday December 22, 2025 @07:39PM (#46361048)
The doctors offices want none of it. It's all FoodTV and HGN.

There is no utility in pissing off 75% of your customers. I'm thrilled that my kid's doctor doesn't even allow patients that aren't vaccine schedule compliant.

Re:US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is ... by Tostino on Monday December 22, 2025 @07:59PM (#46361189)
I'm in Hell (FL), so more "professional offices" than not have Fox on.

Also, we are pushing hard to make sure kids aren't vaccinated at a state level it seems.

I wish I didn't have so much extended family in the area that I'd be moving away from if I left.

Re:US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is ... by janc_ on Monday December 22, 2025 @09:28PM (#46361740)
Doctors should never deny patients.

They can take precautions & insist on proper treatments, of course.

Re:US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is ... by ta9000 on Monday December 22, 2025 @11:52PM (#46362520)
It’s this attitude that’s led to us being in this mess. Don’t want to listen to the doctor about basic medical advice? Don’t go to that doctor.
Re:US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is ... by mgiampapa on Thursday December 25, 2025 @01:39AM (#46382614)
Being medically stupid isn't a protected class. You can refuse service to anyone you want to otherwise. It's not an ER, it's a Pediatrician, and they value not endangering their other patients who actually follow medical advice.
Re:US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is ... by shimman on Monday December 22, 2025 @11:23PM (#46362401)
No one said people aren't dumb with their money, but seriously look at some of the numbers that prime time CNN pulls. Twitch streamers have a large audience than prime time shows. There is a reason why cable has been dying and cable news has already dead.
Re:US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is ... by consumer451 on Tuesday December 23, 2025 @04:08AM (#46363706)
Do Twitch viewers vote? Really doesn't seem like it.
Re:US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is ... by pred_ on Monday December 22, 2025 @04:08PM (#46359101)
> just said "no go ahead, keep building"? What happens to the companies if they just keep building?

As the article also touches upon, this already happened in the particular case of Revolution Wind: There, work, was forced to stop in August, then in September a federal judge blocked enforcement of the block, and work continued:

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/22/judge-orsted-revolution-wind...

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/offshore-wind-develo...

And “what happens” seems to be that rather than appeal, the rule-of-law deniers apparently choose to not care? Work has stopped again:

https://orsted.com/en/media/news/2025/12/revolution-wind-and...

Re:US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is ... by dmbche on Monday December 22, 2025 @03:13PM (#46358448)
These things take large amount of money from upstream, if the money is cut they can "say" what they want, nothing is getting done, from my understanding
Re:US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is ... by reactordev on Monday December 22, 2025 @03:27PM (#46358626)
Power of the purse, given to the executive
Re:US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is ... by techgnosis on Monday December 22, 2025 @03:52PM (#46358916)
I would imagine that most if not all will comply with illegal orders out of fear of retaliation, which is a very valid fear.
Re:US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is ... by bell-cot on Monday December 22, 2025 @04:36PM (#46359430)
Don't expect any sort of mass disobedience here. Doing anything in offshore wind requires a large, highly-skilled organization and lot of time. One firm "ahem!" from the Coast Guard, Navy, or Treasury, and that kinda org will back down.

If things fall apart so badly that the CG, USN, and Treasury don't matter - then who's paying the bills for any offshore construction, and who's protecting anything that is built from looting or seizure?

Re:US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is ... by cr1895 on Monday December 22, 2025 @07:15PM (#46360875)
Just something to keep in mind - the actual site of these wind farms is offshore in federal waters, and construction is subject to federal (as well as state) permits.
Re:US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is ... by unsupp0rted on Tuesday December 23, 2025 @08:10AM (#46365052)
What orders is the executive branch legally qualified to issue?

If they ordered sloppy joes in the white house cafeteria a federal judge would stay the order by noon the next day.