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Re:Mullvad VPN: "This is a Chat Control 3.0 attempt." by AlecSchueler on Monday December 22, 2025 @04:10AM (#46352446)
> If I draw a naked stick figure with boobs and say it is 14, is that morally wrong? At what point should a person care?

No and I'm sure every judge in Britain would throw that case out.

> Their point is that a drawing doesn't hurt people right?

It can in certain circumstances encourage a market or normalise abusive behaviour.

Re:Mullvad VPN: "This is a Chat Control 3.0 attempt." by FpUser on Monday December 22, 2025 @04:54AM (#46352719)
>"It can in certain circumstances encourage..."

Anything can be bad in "certain circumstances". They should go get busy with some real crime.

Re:Mullvad VPN: "This is a Chat Control 3.0 attempt." by AlecSchueler on Monday December 22, 2025 @07:48AM (#46353742)
> Anything can be bad in "certain circumstances"

Can it? In the same way? It feels like your argument comes down to handwaving. Circumstantial law is hardly a novel thing.

Re:Mullvad VPN: "This is a Chat Control 3.0 attempt." by ImPostingOnHN on Monday December 22, 2025 @02:51PM (#46358151)
> Can it? In the same way? It feels like your argument comes down to handwaving. Circumstantial law is hardly a novel thing.

I think that was their point: your argument seems handwavey, because anything can be bad "in certain circumstances".

Hold the door for someone? Seems nice. But you could be insulting them by doing so. Or letting a virus in by having the door open too long. Or wasting energy and contributing to climate change by letting the conditioned air out. Indeed, under certain circumstances, it's bad.

Re:Mullvad VPN: "This is a Chat Control 3.0 attempt." by AlecSchueler on Wednesday December 24, 2025 @01:35PM (#46378002)
Sure, many things can be "bad" if you are happy to go with increasingly absurd reasoning, but I Think that's quite an unfair misrepresentation of both what I said above and of the arguments that were raised in parliament before this law was introduced. Insulting someone by holding a door open might be "bad" but could you really argue for legislating against it? Bringing in the word bad moves the goalposts quite a bit in order to frame the original position as equally limp and absurd.
Re:Mullvad VPN: "This is a Chat Control 3.0 attempt." by bregma on Monday December 22, 2025 @06:04AM (#46353163)
> It can in certain circumstances encourage a market or normalise abusive behaviour.

Just like the printed word. Books should be banned and burned. We should start with Orwell since his writing has been used as a manual for so much abusive behaviour.

Re:Mullvad VPN: "This is a Chat Control 3.0 attempt." by AlecSchueler on Monday December 22, 2025 @07:37AM (#46353684)
Hate speech is also illegal in the UK, yes.