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Re:A middle-class family's only option: A $43,000 health ins... by undeveloper on Monday December 22, 2025 @12:41AM (#46351685)
All indications show that this is absolutely terrible for republicans' self interest, and popularity. trump has gone from winning the popular vote ~~(over 50% voted for him)~~ (a plurality of 49.8% voted for him) to polling at the 30%s. The recent 2025 elections (an off-year, so a variety of smaller elections at the state / city level mostly) have shown democrats are absolutely performing much better right now. This is not contested by either party.

> Is there some way aside from the obvious mistruths they can demonstrate its the democrats fault, and achieve some electoral advantage?

You discount the skill republicans have at lying -- regardless, when people are feeling the pinch in their pockets, they will blame whoever is in power. Currently it is the republicans.

Re:A middle-class family's only option: A $43,000 health ins... by sundaeofshock on Monday December 22, 2025 @12:53AM (#46351732)
<<trump has gone from winning the popular vote (over 50% voted for him)>>

Trump received 49.8% of the popular vote.

Re:A middle-class family's only option: A $43,000 health ins... by undeveloper on Monday December 22, 2025 @12:56AM (#46351747)
You are right there. a plurality, then.
Re:A middle-class family's only option: A $43,000 health ins... by kcplate on Monday December 22, 2025 @08:18AM (#46353892)
I think you probably need to consider how many and who is affected and where their voting affiliations already lie if they even vote at all.

My guess is this doesn’t help or hurt either party at the voting booth. If you are ACA aligned or participate in that program you probably already vote Dem or not at all.

Re:A middle-class family's only option: A $43,000 health ins... by RickJWagner on Monday December 22, 2025 @08:58AM (#46354148)
Not me. I’m right leaning, but use ACA in pre-Medicare retirement.

I suspect a lot of FIRE people ( being excellent money managers / penny pinchers ) are in this boat.

Re:A middle-class family's only option: A $43,000 health ins... by kcplate on Monday December 22, 2025 @12:12PM (#46356081)
Ok, sure… but my guess is that ACA costs aren’t your only political decision maker if you are financially independent. Other things, like market performance under one party over the other probably hold a greater weight on your political considerations. A person in that circumstance generally doesn’t vote with their wallet, they are voting with their portfolio.

But if you are younger, perhaps with a chronic condition, in a job that doesn’t provide a health insurance benefit, and with minimal 401k…you are weighting ACA costs…and are in a demographic that historically votes more blue.

Re:A middle-class family's only option: A $43,000 health ins... by fragmede on Monday December 22, 2025 @01:00PM (#46356674)
If you want to bring up market performance, then we gotta talk about tariffs, and AI, and I was just with the family at Thanksgiving, alright?
Re:A middle-class family's only option: A $43,000 health ins... by kcplate on Tuesday December 23, 2025 @05:50PM (#46370414)
Why? I didn’t vote for Trump, but 4 out of the 5 years he was in office my investments grew pretty substantially in a way that they didn’t under Obama and Biden, I can’t really count 2020 since there was somewhat of an external factor that year. Even still I didn’t lose, just didn’t grow as much.

If AI and tariffs don’t result in substantial market losses for me (and they haven’t yet) why should I care?

Re:A middle-class family's only option: A $43,000 health ins... by TimorousBestie on Monday December 22, 2025 @11:43AM (#46355698)
I don’t get it. Is there some other wedge issue keeping you conservative?

Us FIRE types depend on stable, consistent markets and positive (real) interest rates, and conservatives haven’t delivered on that in recent memory.

Re:A middle-class family's only option: A $43,000 health ins... by RickJWagner on Monday December 22, 2025 @02:27PM (#46357845)
Might be some confirmation bias at work in one or both of us. I tend to see conservative people in the FIRE space, seems you see the opposite. I’ll look more closely to get a better feel.
Re:A middle-class family's only option: A $43,000 health ins... by RickJWagner on Monday December 22, 2025 @08:56AM (#46354129)
Meh. Trump is ahead of Obama and Bush, given the same point in the presidency.

The honeymoon is over, but he has not become excessively unpopular.