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Re:Backing Up Spotify by thaumasiotes on Saturday December 20, 2025 @04:08PM (#46339646)
> I definitely was not aware Spotify DRM had been cracked to enable downloading at scale like this.

Do they have DRM at all? Youtube and Pandora don't.

Re:Backing Up Spotify by ale42 on Saturday December 20, 2025 @04:15PM (#46339697)
Yes they do use DRM. I know they are using Widevine, but possibly other ones too (never looked very far).
Re:Backing Up Spotify by Mindwipe on Saturday December 20, 2025 @04:20PM (#46339737)
YouTube Music uses Widevine.
Re:Backing Up Spotify by thaumasiotes on Saturday December 20, 2025 @04:25PM (#46339767)
If it's on YouTube Music, it's also on... YouTube.
Re:Backing Up Spotify by charcircuit on Saturday December 20, 2025 @04:45PM (#46339913)
Not necessarily at the same quality though.
Re:Backing Up Spotify by thaumasiotes on Saturday December 20, 2025 @05:07PM (#46340083)
I assume in most cases they're literally the same files. Youtube runs "topic" channels for music that distributors have sent it.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYOa-hi751OKY2zGJJv6V2A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSSxnv1_J2g (same thing, but on an official channel instead)

Re:Backing Up Spotify by charcircuit on Saturday December 20, 2025 @05:52PM (#46340426)
You can load any youtube music song on youtube by just removing the "music" subdomain.
Re:Backing Up Spotify by thaumasiotes on Saturday December 20, 2025 @06:09PM (#46340555)
Then why do you say they might not be the same files?
Re:Backing Up Spotify by charcircuit on Saturday December 20, 2025 @07:24PM (#46341066)
Let me start over. Youtube itself has DRM required for certain videos, and certain formats of videos.

The 256 kbps format for music will be protected by DRM. If you do not have DRM available youtube will fallback to a lower quality format to play the auduo.

Re:Backing Up Spotify by sgtlaggy on Saturday December 20, 2025 @06:58PM (#46340902)
Music might have higher quality audio-only files as provided where Youtube might have it combined with video and a generic compression algorithm applied as with all other uploaded videos.
Re:Backing Up Spotify by Retr0id on Saturday December 20, 2025 @05:18PM (#46340160)
Spotify has DRM, and you can find open-source reimplementations of it on github.

Their native clients use a weak hand-rolled DRM scheme (which is where the ogg vorbis files come from), whereas the web player uses Widevine with AAC.

Re:Backing Up Spotify by nsteel on Saturday December 20, 2025 @05:33PM (#46340275)
It's called playplay. It's used for protecting their new lossless files. But the first rule of playplay is you can't talk about playplay. https://torrentfreak.com/spotify-dismantles-spotifydl-track-...