For someone not inclined to dredge up all that data and do the calculations to factor in dividends, where can we take a look at it?

It's a bit of a miracle any technology company that old is still going after all these years. "Dismal" does not seem like an accurate way of characterizing it.

(for someone just taking a glance at the stock price chart, which doesn't take into account dividends, it looks like they were performing well financially until COVID?)

Easily found on Google finance or similar sites: https://www.google.com/finance/beta/quote/XRX:NASDAQ?sa=X&sq...

Not quite 50 years, but you get the idea.

Is there anything on that site that would, as I asked, factor in dividends when analyzing the company's performance? It's a classic problem when comparing stock charts with one another (or against the index) that they don't take into account dividends in a meaningful way.

"Wow, that line has been flat for a long time! Why does anyone think this is a good investment?"

(not meant to be a commentary on Xerox's performance at all - they're clearly in a bad state right now)

Looks like this site does: https://totalrealreturns.com/n/VFINX,VBMFX,USDOLLAR,XRX

Dividends are so out of favor now for most companies, it's not something I have personally cared that much about. But it is important to get a true picture, especially over very long timelines before tax laws changed that made buybacks more efficient.

Thanks for the total return chart. Comparing XRX to IBM was interesting. A long term XRX investor who was perceptive enough to get out before the 1999 crash would have been very happy indeed.

Something like three fourths of the S&P 500 pay a dividend, so it's not really an irrelevancy.

That's fair if you look at Xerox through the lens of "tech company returns"

there are many reasons for this, but I can only comment that they should have left GIS alone, and not let ACS divest. They'd have been stronger this decade with those performing assets.

so yeah, thanks Carl.

>They'd have been stronger this decade with those performing assets.

Or they might have destroyed them. I wonder how Lexmark is doing under their control.