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Re:Europeans' health data sold to US firm run by ex-Israeli ... by kasey_junk on Sunday December 14, 2025 @11:11AM (#46264081)
Then the argument should be that. Not “hey commenter you must prove a never ending set of ‘now do Oracle’, ‘now do Amazon’”.

Say the words “I believe all companies exist as an extension of the US intelligence apparatus” and claim the burden for yourself.

Re:Europeans' health data sold to US firm run by ex-Israeli ... by cluckindan on Sunday December 14, 2025 @11:17AM (#46264120)
That is a strawman argument.

Oracle gets its name from a codename of a 1977 project for the Central Intelligence Agency, Oracle's first customer.

In 2004, then-United States Attorney General John Ashcroft sued Oracle Corporation to prevent it from acquiring a multibillion-dollar intelligence contract. After Ashcroft's resignation from government, he founded a lobbying firm, The Ashcroft Group, which Oracle hired in 2005. With the group's help, Oracle went on to acquire the contract.

Following the beginning of the Gaza war in 2023, Oracle’s top executives, including Safra Catz and Larry Ellison, publicly aligned the company with Israel’s military operations. They issued statements of solidarity, paid double salaries to Israeli employees, and donated to organizations connected to Israel’s wartime response.

Re:Europeans' health data sold to US firm run by ex-Israeli ... by kasey_junk on Sunday December 14, 2025 @11:23AM (#46264171)
See. Thats a good comment. “Your use of Oracle is a bad counter factual because…”

Switching to that is commenting in good faith. It educates and argues the point and makes it clear that you aren’t in fact claiming that all companies are surveillance state apparatus. Note that other commenters ran with the “but they are actually argument” because the door was opened.