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Re:Elites Could Shape Mass Preferences as AI Reduces Persuas... by jack_tripper on Thursday December 04, 2025 @04:41AM (#46145660)
Population density on the planet back then was also low enough to not cause mass wars and generate mass graves, but killing each other over valuable resources is the most common human trait after reproduction and seek of food and shelter.
Re:Elites Could Shape Mass Preferences as AI Reduces Persuas... by lurk2 on Thursday December 04, 2025 @05:04AM (#46145825)
We were talking about the paleolithic era. I’ll take your comment to imply that you don’t have any information that I don’t have.

> but killing each other over valuable resources is the most common human trait after reproduction and seek of food and shelter.

This isn’t reflected in the archaeological record, it isn’t reflected by the historical record, and you haven’t provided any good reason why anyone should believe it.

Re:Elites Could Shape Mass Preferences as AI Reduces Persuas... by pyrale on Thursday December 04, 2025 @05:15AM (#46145896)
The above poster is asking you whether factual informations support your claim.

Your personal opinion about why such informations may be hard to find only weakens your claim.

Re:Elites Could Shape Mass Preferences as AI Reduces Persuas... by phantasmish on Thursday December 04, 2025 @07:11AM (#46146765)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Before_Civilization

Last I checked there hadn’t been major shifts away from the perspective this represents, in anthropology.

It was used as a core text in one of my classes in college, though that was a couple decades ago. I recall being confused about why it was such a big deal, because I’d not encountered the “peaceful savage” idea in any serious context, but I gather it was widespread in the ‘80s and earlier.

Re:Elites Could Shape Mass Preferences as AI Reduces Persuas... by pyrale on Thursday December 04, 2025 @08:27AM (#46147426)
The link you give documents warfare that happened significantly later than the era discussed by the above poster.

To suggest that the lack of evidence is enough to support continuity of a behaviour is also flawed reasoning: we have many examples of previously unknown social behaviour that emerged at some point, line the emergence of states or the use of art.

Sometimes, it’s ok to simply say that we’re not sure, rather than to project our existing condition.

Re:Elites Could Shape Mass Preferences as AI Reduces Persuas... by lurk2 on Thursday December 04, 2025 @04:12PM (#46153144)
Well, this one is at least pertinent to the time period we’re discussing:

> One-half of the people found in a Mesolithic cemetery in present-day Jebel Sahaba, Sudan dating to as early as 13,000 years ago had died as a result of warfare between seemingly different racial groups with victims bearing marks of being killed by arrow heads, spears and club, prompting some to call it the first race war.

Re:Elites Could Shape Mass Preferences as AI Reduces Persuas... by pyrale on Friday December 05, 2025 @04:02AM (#46158409)
Mesolithic is the time period that happens just after Paleolithic, the one that was being talked about.
Re:Elites Could Shape Mass Preferences as AI Reduces Persuas... by greekrich92 on Saturday December 06, 2025 @01:53PM (#46175661)
This is an ideological statement not an empirical one