Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives
by CalRobert on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @04:44AM
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“ And likelihood of death due to a car at an individual level decreases by .01% (maybe).”
This is made up out of thin air.
Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives
by simianwords on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @04:50AM
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Maybe I'm wrong but can you explain why people don't flock and buy only Volvo cars when (I fact checked this) they are 40% more safe than other cars?
Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives
by potato3732842 on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @09:04AM
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Look at injurious car crashes as a fraction of the population rather than in raw numbers. Therein lies the answer.
(And the answer is not to screech about how people are stupid because they don't share your values, prioritization or risk assessment. I shouldn't have to say this, but I feel like I do considering the subject matter)
Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives
by simianwords on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @10:03AM
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>Look at injurious car crashes as a fraction of the population rather than in raw numbers. Therein lies the answer.
Elaborate? Are you suggesting that car accidents are not that high to begin with relatively, so it is not worth as much to increase safety only in cars because it may not translate to overall safety to a person?
Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives
by potato3732842 on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @10:27AM
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More or less. The average person isn't gonna get injured in a car crash in their life, let alone in the time they own a particular car. Hence why it's treated as a "nice to have" that people only consider for a purchasing decisions once their other criteria are met. Which is also why you see it most touted when people are buying something that's handily doing what they need and more (SUV for 1 kid, car car for A to B commuting where just about anything will do, etc). People aren't gonna compromise a key requirement for half a star on a rating for something they're unlikely to need.
Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives
by simianwords on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @11:33AM
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that's what i have been trying to say!! so why is it so obvious that people should accept increase in car prices with regulations when they don't behave that way when buying cars?
If only a few people die due to car accidents and one is much more likely to die of other causes than cars, is it worth making cars that much more expensive to decrease the deaths by a bit?
The regulations in my opinion add up to 20-30% of the car price. And likelihood of death due to a car at an individual level decreases by .01% (maybe).
Imagine you were given two options:
- Car A at $45k USD
- Car B at $35k USD
And you are less likely to die with Car A. Is it super obvious that you will buy Car A? If so why doesn't everyone flock to Volvo cars which lead to ~45% fewer fatalities?
Why is this so obvious to you that this regulation is a good thing? The sibling is implying that I'm trolling or whatever but this is a legitimate question.