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Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives by CalRobert on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @03:53AM (#46132012)
It doesn't, but people do it.

Here's one in Utrecht https://urbanists.social/@Fuzzbizz/109608802470660144

Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives by jacquesm on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @04:12AM (#46132154)
That doesn't just seem selfish, it is selfish. And if it was a renovation crew or so carrying tools I would say they at least have some use for it (though a VW transporter would be just as effective, if not more so).
Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives by ricardobeat on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @04:27AM (#46132286)
A Mercedes Vito, despite being nearly 1m shorter and normal car width, has 4-5x the carry capacity and a 3x longer bed than the RAM. These cars are just for show, you can probably find a Kei truck with similar capacity.
Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives by lan321 on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @08:07AM (#46134058)
> These cars are just for show

I love vans more than any vehicle, but they're garbage at offroad compared to trucks (even 4motion, etc can't compare). Most people don't use them for that, but in villa constructions sometimes you really want a pickup to get to the site. They're also better than vans in snow. Edge cases but they exist and they're not so obscure that I haven't experienced them.

Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives by ricardobeat on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @08:47AM (#46134423)
Indeed, there are probably a few applications where it makes sense – though I suspect a classic, normal-sized Hilux/Frontier/Ranger would excel at that with none of the downsides.

That said, 95% of construction work in europe does not involve any off-road driving at all, and definitely not around the Amsterdam/Utrecht area.

Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives by jacquesm on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @01:25PM (#46138040)
If all off-road vehicles that had never gone off-road evaporated the world would instantly be a better place.
Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives by Aloisius on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @04:37PM (#46140511)
A RAM 1500 can haul 1.3x the weight and tow 4.7x the weight of a Vito. And a RAM can go off-road.

They are, ultimately, made for different workloads.

Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives by gorgabal on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @04:36AM (#46132367)
There is one driving around near where I live in Amsterdam as well.

I am quite tall, even for Dutch standards, but the hood reaches my shoulder easily. It also drives around quite a busy neighbourhood. So I expect this specific car to kill someone within the next 5 years or so.

Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives by walletdrainer on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @04:47AM (#46132473)
There are much more dangerous vehicles around on European roads, such as most buses, trams and lorries.
Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives by Ekaros on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @04:50AM (#46132496)
Those tend to have no bonnets. So there are some risks and accidents still, but in general they do have better visibility.
Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives by jacquesm on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @04:53AM (#46132527)
And professional drivers.
Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives by mvdwoord on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @05:01AM (#46132600)
They get paid for what they do, their "profession". Most of them are not particularly good ;)
Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives by jacquesm on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @05:05AM (#46132630)
That may be true, but on average I would expect them to be better drivers than the pick-up-in-the-inner-city crowd, whose choices are already off to a poor start before they turn the ignition key, after all, they picked the wrong vehicle for the surroundings.
Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives by walletdrainer on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @10:44AM (#46135801)
There are probably less than two hundred people like that in the entire EU. Kind of a pointlessly small demographic to focus on.
Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives by jacquesm on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @01:24PM (#46138022)
Please stop polluting HN threads with nonsense. Thank you.
Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives by walletdrainer on Thursday December 04, 2025 @07:18PM (#46155210)
What nonsense? Do you genuinely believe that there are loads of people driving big American pickups in EU inner cities?

I think “a couple of hundred” is an absolutely reasonable estimate. Even in big cities like London or Paris you’re not going to find more than a couple (counting all the Mercedes G 6x6s too)

The people driving these cars exist mostly outside of inner cities.

If you disagree, you can do so like an adult instead of spewing out completely unnecessary and unjustified insults.

Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives by throw-the-towel on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @05:43AM (#46132929)
Don't they also need special driver licences, which can have more stringent rules?
Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives by consp on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @06:20AM (#46133186)
Yes, but that is mostly "one time you get it" and then some courses every now and then. You do have more stringent medical rules at every renewal.