Re:IBM CEO says there is 'no way' spending on AI data center...
by vesrah on Tuesday December 02, 2025 @11:51PM
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The GPUs going into data centers aren't the kind that can just be reused by putting them into a consumer PC and playing some video games, most don't even have video output ports and put out FPS similar to cheap integrated GPUs.
Re:IBM CEO says there is 'no way' spending on AI data center...
by geerlingguy on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @01:11AM
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And the big ones don't even have typical PCIe sockets, they are useless outside of behemoth rackmount servers requiring massive power and cooling capacity that even well-equipped homelabs would have trouble providing!
Re:IBM CEO says there is 'no way' spending on AI data center...
by gessha on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @08:37AM
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Don’t underestimate a homelaber’s intention to cosplay as a sysadmin or ability to set their house on fire ;)
I wonder if people will come up with ways to repurpose those data center cards.
Re:IBM CEO says there is 'no way' spending on AI data center...
by physicsguy on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @12:23AM
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Data centre cards a don’t have fans and don’t have video out these days.
Re:IBM CEO says there is 'no way' spending on AI data center...
by chii on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @12:25AM
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i dont mean consumer market for video cards - i mean a consumer buying ai chips to run themselves so they can have it locally.
If i can buy a $10k ai card for less than $5000 dollars, i probably would, if i can use it to run an open model myself.
Re:IBM CEO says there is 'no way' spending on AI data center...
by mkjs on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @01:44AM
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At that point it isn't a $10k card anymore, it's a $5k card. And possibly not a $5k card for very long in the scenario that the market has been flooded with them.
Re:IBM CEO says there is 'no way' spending on AI data center...
by darkwater on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @02:15AM
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How many "yous" are there in the world?
Probably a number that can buy what's inside one Azure DC?
Re:IBM CEO says there is 'no way' spending on AI data center...
by esseph on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @03:57AM
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You need the hardware to wrap that in, and the power draw is going to be... significant.
Re:IBM CEO says there is 'no way' spending on AI data center...
by physicsguy on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @12:48AM
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Ah well yes to a degree that’s possible but at least at the moment you’d still be better off buying a $5k Mac Studio if it’s just inference you’re doing
Re:IBM CEO says there is 'no way' spending on AI data center...
by mike_hearn on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @04:30AM
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Why would you do that when you can pay someone else to run the model for you on newer more efficient and more profitable hardware? What makes it profitable for you and not for them?
Re:IBM CEO says there is 'no way' spending on AI data center...
by gessha on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @08:38AM
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Control and privacy?
Re:IBM CEO says there is 'no way' spending on AI data center...
by duped on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @11:59AM
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I would presume that some tier shaped market will arise where the new cards are used for the most expensive compute tasks like training new models, the slightly used for inference, older cards for inference of older models, or applied to other markets that have less compute demand (or spend less $ per flop, like someone else mentioned).
It would be surprising to me that all this capital investment just evaporates when a new data center gets built or refitted with new servers. The old gear works, so sell it and price it accordingly.
this is the crux. Will these data center cards, if a newer model came out with better efficiency, have a secondary market to sell to?
It could be that second hand ai hardware going into consumers' hands is how they offload it without huge losses.