OpenAI declares 'code red' as Google catches up in AI race

Re:OpenAI declares 'code red' as Google catches up in AI race by atonse on Tuesday December 02, 2025 @09:16PM (#46129523)

I pay $100/month for Claude Max, and I've already said it, I would go up to $500 a month and wouldn't hesitate for a second. I'd probably start to hesitate for $1,000 maybe, only cuz I know I wouldn't be able to use it enough to maximize that value. But I might still suck it up and pay for it (I don't use it enough yet to need the $200/month but if I started hitting limits faster, I would upgrade), or at that point start looking for alternatives.

It's worth that much to me in the time saved. But I'm a business owner, so I think the calculus might be quite different (since I can find ways to recoup those costs) from an individual, who pays out of their main income.

I outlined examples of how I used CC/AI a couple months ago [1]. Since then I've used it even more, to help reduce our cloud bills.

1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45382337

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Re:OpenAI declares 'code red' as Google catches up in AI race by viking123 on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @04:51AM (#46132505)

I mean Claude is good for business use-cases, other than that it's completely censored cuck garbage and the CEO is worse than the pope. With Grok you can actually roleplay without it wagging its finger at you. OH MY GOSH YOU SAID BOOB!

Normies literally see no difference between GPT and Claude, just that Claude is much more expensive and CEO is even more of a dummie than Altman.

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Re:OpenAI declares 'code red' as Google catches up in AI race by steveBK123 on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @07:27AM (#46133723)

Right I am sure some find it is worth 5-10x the cost.

The challenge is that if the numbers are accurate they need 5-10x to break even on inference compute costs, before getting into training costs and all the other actual overhead of running a company like compensation.

Will everyone be willing to pay 5-10x? Probably no.

Will half of users pay 10-20x? Or a quarter pay 20x++?

Or we end up with ads … which already seem to be in motion

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Re:OpenAI declares 'code red' as Google catches up in AI race by mrweasel on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @08:00AM (#46133988)

95% of ChatGPT users aren't paying customers, if they won't pay $10 per month, there's zero chance of them paying $100 or $500.

That's not to say that there aren't many, like you, for whom $500 is a perfectly good deal, there's just not nearly enough for OpenAI to ever turn a profit.

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