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Re:Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for publ... by pier25 on Saturday November 29, 2025 @09:35AM (#46087842)
So basically they are admitting that not enough people will pay for it to be a profitable business. Also that they don’t have any significant improvements to the tech coming up.
Re:Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for publ... by aurareturn on Saturday November 29, 2025 @09:43AM (#46087918)
Would you say that Google admitted that not enough people will pay for Youtube premium to be a profitable business so they had to get into ads?
Re:Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for publ... by kgwgk on Saturday November 29, 2025 @10:06AM (#46088086)
I doubt anyone would say that given that they got into ads years before giving people the option to pay.
Re:Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for publ... by aurareturn on Saturday November 29, 2025 @10:11AM (#46088112)
But the same logic applies. Youtube is not profitable without ads and would shut down.
Re:Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for publ... by array_key_first on Saturday November 29, 2025 @04:59PM (#46091187)
Yeah, probably, but then again YouTube is entertainment and Google never claimed to be fixing the world and whatever. Also they're not sucking up hundreds of billions of dollars.
Re:Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for publ... by manojlds on Sunday November 30, 2025 @07:55AM (#46096263)
If ChatGPT and AI is "just" supposed to be Youtube, sure. ChatGPT wasn't supposed to be just YouTube.
Re:Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for publ... by landedgentry on Saturday November 29, 2025 @10:38AM (#46088322)
Youtube premium is not claiming AGI to justify a certain valuation.
Re:Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for publ... by aurareturn on Saturday November 29, 2025 @01:22PM (#46089595)
I don’t think OpenAI has claimed they have AGI?
Re:Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for publ... by kgwgk on Saturday November 29, 2025 @05:30PM (#46091411)
Maybe not having it but being really close to that and knowing how to build it. "We are now confident we know how to build AGI as we have traditionally understood it. We believe that, in 2025, we may see the first AI agents “join the workforce” and materially change the output of companies."
Re:Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for publ... by aurareturn on Sunday November 30, 2025 @12:35AM (#46094120)
Hasn't the happened? Plenty of companies are working and experimenting with agents.
Re:Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for publ... by johnnyanmac on Thursday December 04, 2025 @07:46PM (#46155449)
I'm still waiting for the "materially change the output of companies" part.
Re:Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for publ... by pier25 on Sunday November 30, 2025 @09:57PM (#46103025)
Sam Altman said in 2024 that AGI could happen as soon as 2025.

https://dianawolftorres.substack.com/p/is-agi-just-around-th...

And that's not his only bold claim about AGI.

Re:Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for publ... by varenc on Saturday November 29, 2025 @09:11PM (#46092903)
My personal theory: Youtube ads exist as just a punishment to beat you into paying for premium. As in, while the ads make some money, their primary purpose is to motivate you to pay. And that a subscriber generates meaningful more revenue than the ads sales of a non-subscriber.

It seems plausible to me, since I get so many low quality poorly targeted ads on repeat. I can't imagine those ads are generating much revenue, but it makes sense if their primary purpose is just to beat me into paying for a subscription.

Re:Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for publ... by pier25 on Sunday November 30, 2025 @09:51PM (#46102991)
IIRC ads predate Youtube premium by years.

But why compare these two businesses? They are completely different. From the estimates I've seen, Youtube operating costs are a fraction of what OpenAI is burning yearly.

Re:Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for publ... by sailingparrot on Saturday November 29, 2025 @11:24AM (#46088713)
> So basically they are admitting that not enough people will pay for it to be a profitable business

Since when capitalism is about stopping trying to make more money right when you become profitable? If they can find a way to make 10x the revenue needed to be profitable, they will.

Re:Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for publ... by Lockranor on Saturday November 29, 2025 @07:53PM (#46092414)
That assumes that the move is a necessity. It doesn't have to be; pure profit motive is enough to introduce the concept preemptively.
Re:Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for publ... by pembrook on Saturday November 29, 2025 @08:25PM (#46092628)
I prefer the profit motive over the authoritarian "altruist" motive.

Pessimists before ads: OpenAI is a bubble fueled by dumb money waiting to pop, they'll never be profitable!

Pessimists after ads: Ok it's not a bubble but advertising is evil!

Pessimists after hearing paid subscribers won't get ads: Pffftttt $20 per month??? Profit is evil!! I can spin up a local LLM on my Linux machine for free!

Pessimists after admitting you can just choose not to use ChatGPT, a result of the free market: But I don't like that OTHER people are using ChatGPT because they're obviously dumb if they don't agree with me!