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Re:GrapheneOS migrates server infrastructure from France by TheCraiggers on Monday November 24, 2025 @03:07PM (#46038590)
> it sends the message that GrapheneOS can be pushed around and manipulated: A slight hint of a threat and they flee.

Somehow I doubt France thinks they "won". What they wanted was a back door into the OS. Not only did they not get that but they lost what little bargaining power they had when gOS left France.

> it sends a message of inexperience in business, negotiation

You don't negotiate with terrorists. Obviously France isn't a terror organization but the point is the same: you don't play their game. You play your own.

Leaving the country is exactly that.

Re:GrapheneOS migrates server infrastructure from France by eloisant on Monday November 24, 2025 @03:22PM (#46038781)
If you want my opinion GrapheneOS isn't on the radar of the French government at all, so they don't think they "won" or "lost". It's kind of a "I don't think about you at all" Mad Men Meme.

It's just a few cops who said "I don't like that we can't crack it", and a journalist who asked the prosecutor who got Durov arrested and she said "well sure if they break the law we could sue them".

The only party that is getting hurt about this whole thing is their French hosting company, OVH, who tried to calm down the situation and talk to explain him that they can still safely use OVH.

https://mastodon.social/@_bapt_/115585566888497543

Re:GrapheneOS migrates server infrastructure from France by mmooss on Monday November 24, 2025 @09:14PM (#46041675)
GrapheneOS also lost something. Whatever they are shutting down in France has some value, or it wouldn't have existed in the first place. Also they lose access to future opportunities in France.
Re:GrapheneOS migrates server infrastructure from France by StopDisinfo910 on Monday November 24, 2025 @04:36PM (#46039651)
> Somehow I doubt France thinks they "won". What they wanted was a back door into the OS.

There is absolutely nothing pointing to France wanting a backdoor in GOS. The only thing we have is one prosecutor quoted in a far right journal saying she wouldn’t hesitate to charge them if they are linked to organised crimes and refuse to cooperate.

When France wants a backdoor in an open source project, they do it like every modern country with an intelligence service, sneakily.

Re:GrapheneOS migrates server infrastructure from France by blitzar on Monday November 24, 2025 @05:31PM (#46040181)
When France wants a backdoor in an open source project, they do it like every modern country with an intelligence service, the borrow either the CIA's or Mossads.