Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.1 available

Re:Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.1 available by veidr on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @10:01AM (#45980398)

Nah. Incus.

Sorry, but I bought Proxmox 7, but it is not comparable. Incus does everything (and more) with better interface, WAY better reliability, and also not like a hundred EUR or whatever. (100 EUR is fine with me if better, but not if not better...)

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Re:Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.1 available by abotsis on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @10:24AM (#45980695)

I’ve been looking at incus, and some aspects are appealing (creating a vm/container via cli). But I think proxmox having better clustering, and built in support for ceph, backups (with proxmox backup server)… proxmox just had a little more maturity behind it. I’ll be watching incus though.

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Re:Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.1 available by RamRodification on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @11:32AM (#45981575)

> aspects are appealing (creating a vm/container via cli)

Nothing is stopping you from doing this with Proxmox, right?

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Re:Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.1 available by wantlotsofcurry on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @10:28AM (#45980763)

I was looking to setup Proxmox for my homelab soon but this comment got me interested in Incus. Mostly because I've never heard of any Proxmox alternatives before this. You can try out Incus in your browser here: https://linuxcontainers.org/incus/try-it/

The demo does take ~10m to get into a working instance.

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Re:Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.1 available by hrimfaxi on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @10:32AM (#45980833)

Their site might be getting hugged, even the non-demo page is taking ages to load.

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Re:Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.1 available by PentiumBug on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @10:18AM (#45980624)

Interesting. Does Incus has support for storing virtual machine assets in a NFS store so they could be easily migrated?

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Re:Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.1 available by SlavikCA on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @11:25AM (#45981477)

Looks like Incus has no GUI?

Proxmox has nice web GUI

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Re:Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.1 available by veidr on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @11:32AM (#45981576)

It has one[1] (optional). Proxmox has a shittier, but more featureful, web UI.

[1]: https://blog.simos.info/how-to-install-and-setup-the-incus-w...

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Re:Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.1 available by znpy on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @11:54AM (#45981827)

i like the proxmox web ui.

also, looking at the link you posted, it looks like incus can only do like a fraction of what proxmox can do. is that the case or is that web ui a limiting factor?

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Re:Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.1 available by ekropotin on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @10:51AM (#45981065)

Dang it! I’ve just got comfortable with Proxmox, but now I have to start looking into Incus because of your comment.

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Re:Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.1 available by unethical_ban on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @10:20AM (#45980649)

Proxmox is free, too.

Incus looks nice, though it looks to be more API driven , at least from the landing page. I can't attest to Proxmox in a production/cluster environment but (barring GPU passthrough) it's very accessible for homelab and small network.

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Re:Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.1 available by Semaphor on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @10:25AM (#45980719)

GPU passthrough works fine? I use that for transcoding in Jellyfin.

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Re:Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.1 available by proxysna on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @11:19AM (#45981392)

Takes 10 minutes to setup and one reboot. Works flawlessly, Linux or Windows. vGPU is a different story though.

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Re:Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.1 available by unethical_ban on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @10:43AM (#45980970)

I don't remember if I tried and failed, or if it seemed too much for me... I have an Arc A series; if you have a verified guide I would like to take a look!

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Re:Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.1 available by zer00eyz on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @10:56AM (#45981128)

This may have more to do with your underlying hardware than proxmox itself.

It's been forever, but to do passthrough you need proper bios support and configuration.

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Re:Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.1 available by throw0101c on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @01:00PM (#45982625)

Some folks got Intel Arc working:

* https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/pci-passthrough-arc-a380-i...

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Re:Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.1 available by brandon272 on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @10:24AM (#45980708)

I tried demo'ing Incus from their "Try it online" page but it just spins endlessly and nothing happens.

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Re:Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.1 available by whalesalad on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @10:22AM (#45980671)

Proxmox is entirely free and very, very reliable. Personal preference is fine, but I really don't think any of your claims are true.

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Re:Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.1 available by hrimfaxi on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @10:31AM (#45980812)

I thought you had to pay a fee to access their updates repository? It's been a while though so I may be mistaken.

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Re:Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.1 available by richwater on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @10:33AM (#45980851)

There's community update repositories you can swap out.

I'm not really sure what the difference is.

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Re:Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.1 available by moepstar on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @10:57AM (#45981132)

The difference: the free repositories get the updates before the enterprise repo.

So, the software versions that go into the enterprise repo are considered stable by then.

(If we're talking about Proxmox, that is.)

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Re:Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.1 available by ekropotin on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @10:57AM (#45981136)

Enterprise repos are better tested and somewhat guarantee updates don’t explode anything.

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Re:Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.1 available by roger_ on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @01:23PM (#45982992)

IncusOS looks pretty interesting. It’s a new immutable distribution designed for Incus.

When it matures I’ll look into switching from Proxmox.

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Re:Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.1 available by rcarmo on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @05:39PM (#45986296)

Incus has a pretty bare-bones web UI without nary any metrics, which is a bit of a pain when you're trying to track down CPU hogs. Proxmox, on the other hand, makes things very much visible and easy to use.

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