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Re:Cloudflare Global Network experiencing issues by creatonez on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @04:45PM (#45972609)
Sure, but that doesn't really help for user-facing services where people expect to either type a domain name in their browser or click on a search result, and end up on your website every time.

And the access controls of DNS services are often (but not always) not fine-grained enough to actually prevent someone from ignoring the procedure and changing every single subdomain at once.

Re:Cloudflare Global Network experiencing issues by __turbobrew__ on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @05:04PM (#45972849)
> Sure, but that doesn't really help for user-facing services where people expect to either type a domain name in their browser or click on a search result, and end up on your website every time.

It does help. For example, at my company we have two public endpoints:

company-staging.com company.com

We roll out changes to company-staging.com first and have smoke tests which hit that endpoint. If the smoketests fail we stop the rollout to company.com.

Users hit company.com

Re:Cloudflare Global Network experiencing issues by cowsandmilk on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @05:54PM (#45973378)
That doesn’t help with rolling out updates to the DNS for company.com which is the point here. It’s always DNS because your pre-production smoke tests can’t test your production DNS configuration.
Re:Cloudflare Global Network experiencing issues by FLHerne on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @12:37PM (#45982326)
If I'm understanding it right, the idea is that the DNS configuration for company-staging.com is identical to that for company.com - same IPs and servers, DNS provider, domain registrar. Literally the only differences are s/company/company-staging/, all accesses should hit the same server with the same request other than the Host header.

Then you can update the DNS configuration for company-staging.com, and if that doesn't break there's very little scope for the update to company.com to go differently.

Re:Cloudflare Global Network experiencing issues by creatonez on Thursday November 20, 2025 @10:26AM (#45993596)
The purpose of a staged rollout is to test things with some percentage of actual real-world production traffic, after having already thoroughly tested things in a private staging environment. Your staging URL doesn't have that. Unless the public happens to know about it.

The scope for it to go wrong is the differences in real-world and simulation.

It's a good thing to have, but not a replacement for the concept of staged rollout.