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Re:Google Antigravity, a New Era in AI-Assisted Software Dev... by koakuma-chan on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @11:42AM (#45968616)
Oh no, not another VSCode fork...
Re:Google Antigravity, a New Era in AI-Assisted Software Dev... by rvz on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @01:27PM (#45970072)
Many software engineering principles have been broken.

Google using Electron tells us that quality control is completely out of the window.

Unbelievable.

Re:Google Antigravity, a New Era in AI-Assisted Software Dev... by morshu9001 on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @02:04PM (#45970505)
Native app dev is covered in red tape and puts you at the mercy of Apple etc. It's unfortunate that things are so inefficient now, but competition is good, and native platforms can get good.
Re:Google Antigravity, a New Era in AI-Assisted Software Dev... by zahlman on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @02:15PM (#45970658)
> Native app dev is covered in red tape and puts you at the mercy of Apple etc.

... Aren't we talking about a programming IDE here? When did mobile become anything like the primary market for that? Are people expected to sit around for hours inputting symbols with an OSK?

Re:Google Antigravity, a New Era in AI-Assisted Software Dev... by morshu9001 on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @07:59PM (#45974528)
Mac. It's a pain to target, and I don't mean cause of the code signing.
Re:Google Antigravity, a New Era in AI-Assisted Software Dev... by timeon on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @03:32PM (#45971634)
If Zed can make it, even with completely new stack, why not Google?

What are all this LLMs for when everything is just fork of electron app? Does not look like good marketing.

Re:Google Antigravity, a New Era in AI-Assisted Software Dev... by morshu9001 on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @03:09AM (#45977013)
I'm not ignoring this question, I'm just not familiar with Zed and don't know how native it feels. Maybe Vscode is quicker to modify in the future as needed (esp if Google already uses it), or Antigravity is better in ways than Zed, or Zed just has a more skilled team than Google.

Also I'm used to vim and sensitive to lag, so I always hated vscode, but seems a lot of people don't notice or something. And when you're using AI for 90% of the loc, it matters less.

Re:Google Antigravity, a New Era in AI-Assisted Software Dev... by user34283 on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @01:51PM (#45970351)
I tried writing a native Windows app using WinUI 3.

I wasted a day on trying to get some PNGs to render correctly, but no matter the config I used, the colors came out wrongly oversaturated.

I used Tauri with a WebView, and the app was rendering the images perfectly fine. On top of that the UI looked much better, and I was done in half the time I spend trying to fix the rendering issue in WinUI 3.

Never again will I go native.

Re:Google Antigravity, a New Era in AI-Assisted Software Dev... by sirwhinesalot on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @02:05PM (#45970517)
To be fair WinUI3 is particularly bad. If you're forced to install a 100MB runtime anyway, might as well make that runtime be a browser.
Re:Google Antigravity, a New Era in AI-Assisted Software Dev... by user34283 on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @04:32PM (#45972420)
Since Tauri uses the system's WebView, it shouldn't be that big. The docs say a minimal app could be 600 KB.
Re:Google Antigravity, a New Era in AI-Assisted Software Dev... by sirwhinesalot on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @02:22AM (#45976744)
Yeah, Tauri is better in that regard. My point is if the comparison is with WinUI, you might as well use Electron.
Re:Google Antigravity, a New Era in AI-Assisted Software Dev... by badgersnake on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @02:30PM (#45970845)
Looks like they managed to make it Mac only in the process.
Re:Google Antigravity, a New Era in AI-Assisted Software Dev... by koakuma-chan on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @02:31PM (#45970877)
I would love this to be true to further make fun of Electron, but I don't think it's Mac only.

https://antigravity.google/download

Re:Google Antigravity, a New Era in AI-Assisted Software Dev... by badgersnake on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @02:39PM (#45970992)
Ahh you’re right. The UX of that site is bad on my phone.