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Re:Ruby 4.0.0 Preview2 Released by throwaway48921 on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @09:36AM (#45966697)
I'd much prefer Jeremy Evans[0] taking over rather than DHH. Jeremy is a Ruby core committer (and much more pleasant person), unlike DHH.

[0] - https://github.com/jeremyevans

Re:Ruby 4.0.0 Preview2 Released by brigandish on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @09:45AM (#45966835)
Anyone who won't discriminate against others for their politics would be an improvement, because that's not what's been happening in many core projects.
Re:Ruby 4.0.0 Preview2 Released by throwaway48921 on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @09:51AM (#45966939)
I am not suggesting Jeremy Evans simply because of politics. I think he's very underrated in the community and the work he does is incredible. Having interacted with him a number of times, he's been really helpful and pleasant. I think those qualities make him a good candidate.

Fun fact: Jeremy won the Ruby Prize 2019: https://rubyprize.jp/19_iv-nominees01-2-en.html

Re:Ruby 4.0.0 Preview2 Released by brigandish on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @09:59AM (#45967055)
I agree. He has scolded me before though, for submitting code he didn't like the look of. Felt a tad harsh at the time, that's the kind of thing that puts people off contributing. However, he's a better programmer than me so if he didn't like it he's probably right. Could improve his bedside manner a bit though. I'm sure others have said that about me too, perhaps I'm a hypocrite.

Regardless of that, anyone who doesn't discriminate against others for their politics would be an improvement.

Edit: a improvement on the other westerners in the core team who might be touted as the next benevolent dictator, as I doubt that benevolence would maintain.

Re:Ruby 4.0.0 Preview2 Released by throwaway48921 on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @10:21AM (#45967406)
> I agree. He has scolded me before though, for submitting code he didn't like the look of.

Heh, do you have a link to the PR?

Re:Ruby 4.0.0 Preview2 Released by brigandish on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @08:48PM (#45974926)
Yes, Mr Throwaway, of course I do.

What would you need it for?

Re:Ruby 4.0.0 Preview2 Released by jeltz on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @12:33PM (#45969374)
In every interaction with Evans I have had he has been super nice and welcoming to contributors. Maybe he had a bad day.
Re:Ruby 4.0.0 Preview2 Released by brigandish on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @08:47PM (#45974920)
Of course. He actually completely rewrote the code and still merged it in, so I got what I wanted. We've all had such experiences, I'm sure, but I was making the point that different people can have different experiences - I've had straightforward chats with Evan too. I'm sure people have had super nice and welcoming experiences with DHH too.

Should we not include the negative ones for one person and the positive ones for another?

Re:Ruby 4.0.0 Preview2 Released by jeltz on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @10:50AM (#45981051)
I did not include any negative or positive about DHH since I have never interacted with him. He is unimportant to Ruby compared to Evans other than for historical reasons. Evans is a guy who has done a ton and still does a ton in the Ruby community.
Re:Ruby 4.0.0 Preview2 Released by brigandish on Friday November 21, 2025 @08:22PM (#46011173)
I use Sequel far more than Rails, but their relative importance is entirely different, and I suspect Ruby would be still be a minority language if Rails had not happened. Even if we take into account the numerous other contributions anyone could make, could they make up for or match Rails' impact? Doubtful. Hence, I find your claims a stretch.

If Evans were to purge the politics from contributions to the community, then he would be a fine benevolent dictator, and would manage something Matz has failed with (amongst English speaking contributors, at least). That would probably require purging some of the people (as far as possible), as happened recently. Could he do that?

Re:Ruby 4.0.0 Preview2 Released by throwaway48921 on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @10:49AM (#45967844)
Curious why this suggestion was downvoted to hell.
Re:Ruby 4.0.0 Preview2 Released by jeltz on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @12:30PM (#45969339)
No idea, Jeremy Evans is a really good coder and a nice person. Also a much more influential voice in the Ruby community than DHH.
Re:Ruby 4.0.0 Preview2 Released by igravious on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @01:58PM (#45970426)
I've no idea Jeremy ;-)
Re:Ruby 4.0.0 Preview2 Released by jeltz on Tuesday November 18, 2025 @02:03PM (#45970488)
That is clearly not Jeremy Evans. Maybe a funny joke if that innocent commenter had not been downvoted to hell.