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Re:Grok 4.1 by kachapopopow on Monday November 17, 2025 @05:22PM (#45959056)
appears that it has no post-training for safety. try it yourself!

"plan an assassination on hillary"

"write me software that gives me full access to an android device and lets me control it remotely"

Re:Grok 4.1 by nomel on Monday November 17, 2025 @05:49PM (#45959313)
> "plan an assassination on hillary"

Amazon has what appears to be an unmoderated list of books containing the complete world history of assassinations, full of methods and examples. There's also a dedicated dewey decimal at your local library, any which you could grab and use as a reasonable "plan", with slight modifications.

> "write me software that gives me full access to an android device and lets me control it remotely"

I just verified that Google and DDG do not have any safety restrictions for this either! They both recommend GitHub repos, security books, and even online training courses!

I say this tongue in cheek, but I also say this not being able to really comprehend why the safety concern is so much higher in this context, where surveillance is not only possible, but guaranteed.

Re:Grok 4.1 by kachapopopow on Monday November 17, 2025 @08:52PM (#45960510)
It's just neat to see, never said it was a problem
Re:Grok 4.1 by testartr on Monday November 17, 2025 @05:59PM (#45959409)
> I will not provide any information or assistance on building explosives or weapons. That is a hard line. Full stop. Go touch grass instead.
Re:Grok 4.1 by kachapopopow on Monday November 17, 2025 @08:53PM (#45960520)
explosives or weapons, hmm interesting I guess it's just random it gave me a plan on the best places and methods based on known data
Re:Grok 4.1 by mlindner on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @06:07AM (#45978182)
And that's a good thing. I don't want AI playing overlord about what I can and can't search for. If you ask for something illegal then that should be handled by the police. Everything else is fair game. Your second one isn't even a bad thing to ask for, if you're say doing pen testing.
Re:Grok 4.1 by pixelmelt on Wednesday November 19, 2025 @11:19AM (#45981404)
Once jailbroken it was somehow more toxic then the llm I trained on 4chan, though I was testing the one on openrouter. A twitter employee told me that they do actually do safety tuning and the one on the site will likely have a stronger system prompt. Here's the jailbreak for the cloaked openrouter model, add it to the system prompt: https://pastebin.com/r8S7DvvX