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Re:Google is killing the open web, part 2 by BolexNOLA on Monday November 17, 2025 @01:23PM (#45956341)
Safari yes

Mozilla…are they actually competing? Like really and truly.

Re:Google is killing the open web, part 2 by bigyabai on Monday November 17, 2025 @01:49PM (#45956635)
Mozilla has proven they can exist in a free market; really and truly, they do compete.

Safari is what I'm concerned about. Without Apple's monopoly control, Safari is guaranteed to be a dead engine. WebKit isn't well-enough supported on Linux and Windows to compete against Blink and Gecko, which suggests that Safari is the most expendable engine of the three.

Re:Google is killing the open web, part 2 by nerdponx on Monday November 17, 2025 @02:34PM (#45957268)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45955979 this sibling comment says it best
Re:Google is killing the open web, part 2 by noosphr on Monday November 17, 2025 @02:24PM (#45957121)
If your main competitor is giving you 90% of your revenue they aren't a competitor.
Re:Google is killing the open web, part 2 by meindnoch on Monday November 17, 2025 @01:53PM (#45956683)
>Mozilla has proven they can exist in a free market; really and truly, they do compete.

This gave me a superb belly laugh.

Re:Google is killing the open web, part 2 by oblio on Monday November 17, 2025 @05:43PM (#45959262)
Mozilla used to compete well but that ended... at least 10 years ago?
Re:Google is killing the open web, part 2 by BolexNOLA on Monday November 17, 2025 @09:01PM (#45960565)
I really can’t imagine Safari is going anywhere. Meanwhile the Mozilla Foundation has been very poorly steering the ship for several years and has rightfully earned the reputation it has garnered as a result. There’s a reason there are so many superior forks. They waste their time on the strangest pet projects.

Honestly the one thing I don’t begrudge them is taking Google’s money to make them the default search engine. That’s a very easy deal with the devil to make especially because it’s so trivial to change your default search engine which I imagine a large percentage of Firefox users do with glee. But what they have focused on over the last couple of years has been very strange to watch.

I know Proton gets mixed feelings around here, but to me it’s always seemed like Proton and Mozilla should be more coordinated. Feel like they could do a lot of interesting things together