My governments are not arming nor giving diplomatic cover to Russia, but they're doing so to Israel. That makes the latter my problem at a very practical level, even if all situations deserve concern at a moral one.

People are concerned about Palestine because we're the ones doing it indirectly. It's not US or European troops on the ground, but it's almost entirely funded by the US and Europe and our governments fully support it and help it to keep going. Whereas the war in Sudan, while also very bad, isn't our fault. Maybe if we could get our own governments to stop bombing little children, after that we could consider intervening to stop other governments from bombing little children, but as it is, we can't even get past step 1.

>Whereas the war in Sudan, while also very bad, isn't our fault

bullshit. [0][1][2]

[0]: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2012/4/21/obama-urges-talks-b...

[1]: https://foreignpolicy.com/2010/11/11/how-obama-betrayed-suda...

[2]: https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/01/13/obamas-premature-easing-...

Has Sudan also been going on 70 years with the help of the Brits and active funding of the Americans, then? Have hundreds of thousands died in any country and even more expelled (ethnically cleansed) in the world since 1948 apart from Palestine? No? Then your whataboutism is childish and your deflection is obvious.

The Arab states did ethnically cleanse hundreds of thousands of indigenous Mizrahi Jews: https://justiceforjews.com/

Yes, that can only have been the Arabs, as long as we ignore this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Plan and all subsequent Zionist programmes to fulfil the stated goal of Zionism since the 19th century, to import as many Jews as possible into Palestine to ethnically cleanse the Palestinian population (Muslim, Jew, and Christian) living there for almost a thousand years.

"Jews will not replace us", huh

What about the Trans-Saharan slave trade, Red Sea slave trade and Indian Ocean slave trade operated by Arab Muslims and lasting over 1300 years? Why are Arab countries not criticizing Israel as much as European ones? How come there have been no massive public demonstration in support of Palestine anywhere else than the West in general? Where are the Arab countries when the EU denounced and recognized the genocide of Uyghurs in China?

Just look at yourself in the mirror and come back commenting.

> Have hundreds of thousands died in any country and even more expelled (ethnically cleansed) in the world since 1948 apart from Palestine?

What? Seriously?! It isn’t even in the top ten!

The partition of India. Zanzibar. Nigeria. The Khmer Rouge. The Cultural Revolution. The invasion and annexation of Tibet. Indonesia. Bangladesh. Rwanda. Idi Amin. The Kurds. Srebrenica. Biafra. The Khmer Rouge. Guetemala. The Cultural Revolution. The invasion and annexation of Tibet. Guatemala. Indonesia. Rwanda. Uganda. The Kurds. Srebrenica. Off the top of my head.

This sort of extremist ignorant activism hurts the people one claims to be protecting, because once exaggeration is shown it’s easier to dismiss the whole thing.

Not to mention they Arab states also ethnically cleansed hundreds of thousands of indigenous Mizrahi Jews: https://justiceforjews.com/

> What? Seriously?! It isn’t even in the top ten!

You are being disingenuous. You know what the guy meant. But then again what can you expect from a hindu zionist.

> The partition of India. Zanzibar. Nigeria. The Khmer Rouge. The Cultural Revolution. The invasion and annexation of Tibet. Indonesia. Bangladesh. Rwanda. Idi Amin. The Kurds. Srebrenica. Biafra. The Khmer Rouge. Guetemala. The Cultural Revolution. The invasion and annexation of Tibet. Guatemala. Indonesia. Rwanda. Uganda. The Kurds. Srebrenica.

You repeated a bunch of them. Regardless, which of these is an example of 80% of the population being ethnically cleansed and being displaced by european settlers?

> This sort of extremist ignorant activism hurts the people one claims to be protecting, because once exaggeration is shown it’s easier to dismiss the whole thing.

It's only easy to dismiss when you intentionally misunderstand the point of the comment. Obviousy there has been more deaths in countries with larger populations. But which experienced the ethnical cleansing and displacement like palestine?

That you think the "invasion and annexation" of Tibet is worse than what's happening in palestine shows your true colors.

>Have hundreds of thousands died in any country and even more expelled (ethnically cleansed) in the world since 1948 apart from Palestine?

Yes there have been,scroll down and you'll see plenty of stuff in Asia,Africa. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_cleansing_campa...

Why blame only west for the war in Palestine and not themselves or the Iran,Saudis and rest of the middle east? Or even their religious history about that place. The only "whataboutism" is you downplaying the genocide in Ukraine,when the first comment wasnt even trying to compare both tragedies.

So stupid. For one Israel receives massive military aid from the US government and has an immense lobbying apparatus that directly and openly influences almost every major political campaign for both parties.

Ummm... Ukraine? Like we are literally sending drones and patriot missiles to neo-Nazi's in Ukraine so that they can defend themselves. Have we done this for Hamas?

Neo Nazis?

Nice propaganda.

If Ukrainians are Nazis,then so is Russia,US and rest of the World,since you'll find weirdos with extreme beliefs in every country.

The same way you can just call Palestinians terrorists because they killed bunch of people in Europe decades ago and celebrated the 9/11 and Charlie Hebdo attacks.

They called Palestinians terrorists because they beheaded, mutilated, gang raped, lit on fire (and more) over a thousand civilians on October 7, 2023.

Feel free to watch the video evidence: https://www.hamas-massacre.net/.

Of course I am not saying they are all Nazis. I fully support Ukraine. But certainly many of the battalions have far-right views, as in they are literally neo-Nazi's that support the holocaust / Hitler. I don't mean to use it in a hand-wavy sense. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Brigade

I'm just saying there is a pretty big hypocricy. Calling Hamas anti-semitic etc. while sending these drones to fascist neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine. It is a tiny tiny group, but the Azov brigade was celebrated in the media while holding these views.

My basic point (which you never refuted) is that Israel/Palestine is fundamentally more relevant than Sudan to American citizens because our government is deeply entangled in supporting one side of it, and is influenced by the Israeli gov't.