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Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by rmoriz on Thursday November 13, 2025 @10:54AM (#45916391)
The founder and owner, Wolfgang Denk, sadly passed away in 2022. https://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2022-October/497955.h...
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by Deeg9rie9usi on Thursday November 13, 2025 @11:22AM (#45916785)
Wolfgang was a great man. Beside of U-Boot his company was also deeply involved in the Linux real-time extension Xenomai: https://lore.kernel.org/xenomai/[email protected]/
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by kevin_thibedeau on Thursday November 13, 2025 @10:18AM (#45915895)
NABLA is one typo away from some unsavory people.
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by bsimpson on Thursday November 13, 2025 @10:51AM (#45916344)
For those missing the reference, NAMBLA is the "man/boy love association" (as in pedophiles).
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by octoberfranklin on Thursday November 13, 2025 @10:09PM (#45923416)
Back before SWATting was a thing, signing up people you disliked as members of NAMBLA was all the rage.

If you ask me it was funnier, and less risk of anybody actually dying.

Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by bitwize on Thursday November 13, 2025 @11:51AM (#45917159)
It's also the name of a mathematical vector derivative operator (∇).
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by rdlw on Thursday November 13, 2025 @02:47PM (#45919592)
Interesting, I only knew it as the del until now
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by weinzierl on Thursday November 13, 2025 @03:58PM (#45920453)
OMG, how did you remember that

  nabla x nabla = labla(ce)?
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by henearkr on Thursday November 13, 2025 @04:24PM (#45920741)
I think you meant Laplace (Laplacian operator).
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by weinzierl on Friday November 14, 2025 @05:13AM (#45925549)
That's the mnemonic I was taught, but granted, it takes some artistic license to make it rhyme.
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by henearkr on Friday November 14, 2025 @02:45PM (#45931257)
Ha! lol ^^ Ok, I see!
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by okanat on Thursday November 13, 2025 @05:00PM (#45921194)
And I thought only ∂ is called "del".
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by thatfunkymunki on Thursday November 13, 2025 @07:09PM (#45922357)
i thought it was the symbol for gradient?

edit: ah, the name of the symbol for the gradient operator is nabla

Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by rfmc on Thursday November 13, 2025 @11:35AM (#45916949)
I mean, North American Marlon Brando Look-Alikes are not that bad.
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by neilv on Thursday November 13, 2025 @02:49PM (#45919608)
I used to study news, which meant reading a lot of it, so maybe I'm not representative, but I immediately noticed that.

Whoever tastefully drew their logo in lowercase might've warned them not do it as all-caps elsewhere, if they were aware of the US brand issue.

If I had to refer to this brand name in text, such as in specs, I wouldn't do all-caps like they have. (To US people, who may be familiar with the toxic brand from written news, US journalism style guides tend to put initialisms and acronyms in all-caps, unlike in parts of Europe.) I would capitalize only the first letter.

Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by henearkr on Thursday November 13, 2025 @04:18PM (#45920676)
To scientific-oriented minds it only refers to the mathematical operator.

I personally did not know about, and don't care about, the "horrifying" thing you see in nabla. And I will keep being like that.

If we were to start tracking all the things that are "a typo away from a bad thing", not a lot of words would be left.

Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by benzible on Thursday November 13, 2025 @06:42PM (#45922178)
I'm sure you have a list of things that you would not want to be "one typo away" from.
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by henearkr on Thursday November 13, 2025 @07:35PM (#45922531)
I don't. One typo away means it stays different.
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by stephen_g on Thursday November 13, 2025 @09:00PM (#45923014)
There are too many things to really worry about it too much. It's not really how language works anyway - like would you say "You don't want to call your organisation the Rare Books Association because 'rare' is only one letter away from 'rape'?" - clearly that's ridiculous.
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by RiverCrochet on Thursday November 13, 2025 @09:12PM (#45923083)
"Rare Books A**ociation" already has 1 bad word right in it. No typo needed.
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by numpad0 on Thursday November 13, 2025 @06:10PM (#45921940)
Never heard of the term in question, is the word similar sounding to this by accident or is it tongue-in-cheek inspiration of some sort?
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by stephen_g on Thursday November 13, 2025 @08:57PM (#45922996)
I've never heard of it either until reading these comments (I'm in Australia). Assuming the NA in that acronym means North America (?) and given that Denx and this new entity is German it's probably safe to assume that they haven't heard of it either.
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by mcmoor on Friday November 14, 2025 @12:49AM (#45924251)
I've seen other comment for the supposed unsavory thing but I've never heard about it, like, at all. Only know it as the mathematical operator. Also being used as card name for a children card game that's a bit infamously censor heavy so I think it's safe enough https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Mathmech_Nabla
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by gspr on Friday November 14, 2025 @02:47AM (#45924788)
Don't help those unsavory people hog a large part of our shared namespace.
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by mmmlinux on Thursday November 13, 2025 @11:40AM (#45917023)
Doesn't most of the embedded Linux world run on u-boot? whats going to happen to that market now?
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by akdev1l on Thursday November 13, 2025 @11:43AM (#45917059)
Seems that it will be maintained by those using it (eg: companies and hobbyists alike)

U-boot will not die from this

Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by jojomodding on Thursday November 13, 2025 @03:03PM (#45919803)
The answer is in the link you clicked: U-boot will be maintained as the open-source project it is, with some engineers previously working at Denx going to a specific different company with the express purpose of supporting U-boot.
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by fukka42 on Thursday November 13, 2025 @11:35AM (#45916948)
U-Boot is pretty cool, I like how scriptable it is.
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by joezydeco on Thursday November 13, 2025 @05:43PM (#45921652)
U-boot is scriptable, but it's awkward. You put snippets of shell-like commands into environment variables and then connect them all together. It's the most powerful bootloader I've ever worked with, but writing new stuff and debugging it is tedious.
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by rcxdude on Friday November 14, 2025 @04:54AM (#45925436)
Yeah, I strongly prefer barebox, if it's an option. You can just write shell scripts in it.
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by dominicq on Thursday November 13, 2025 @12:40PM (#45917897)
So long and denx for all the fish!
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by bayindirh on Thursday November 13, 2025 @12:44PM (#45917960)
And for the (yellow) submarines!
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by zoobab on Thursday November 13, 2025 @02:24PM (#45919341)
Damn i have a Denx parallel port JTAG adaptor Somewhere in my stock:

http://www.zoobab.com/denx-bdm4jtag

Enjoy retirement!

Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by rogermeier on Thursday November 13, 2025 @06:07PM (#45921924)
Wolfgang and me introduced the concept of the SPDX-License-Identifier, see https://spdx.dev/learn/handling-license-info/ also landed within the Kernel later, beside of many things we did for our stuff at Siemens, upstream first such as https://github.com/u-boot/u-boot/tree/master/board/siemens
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by andrekandre on Thursday November 13, 2025 @07:45PM (#45922576)

  > After 20 successful years in the embedded world, the DENX holders decided to wind-down operations and retire. ... As a result of this process, the company entered voluntarily liquidation. 

  > Still looking for great support ? Former DENX’s engineers joined NABLA, a new company created to provide high level support .... You will find the same expertise and quality support you experienced in many years in DENX.
first impression is, i wonder if they ever considered just selling the company to the employees and let them continue it...?
Re:Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires by trenchpilgrim on Thursday November 13, 2025 @10:26PM (#45923514)
Looks like the founder passed away a few years ago, perhaps this was easier for his inheritors.