Yah... It's not as if the healthcare/pharma industry have ever ran false multi-year propaganda campaigns that later turned out to be outright harmful to people.

They'd never lie and conspire for years and years. That couldn't possibly happen.

I would point out that the anti-vaxx campaign about vaccines causing autism is a multi-decade propaganda campaign that absolutely harms people.

However, being as that is merely a to quoque fallacy, I'm rather curious: do you have any examples of said campaigns run by the healthcare/pharma industry? And, more importantly, do you have any evidence such campaigns have anything to do with vaccines?

Note: the Purdue/Sackler campaign surrounding opiods is already well-known, but AFAICT, it has no relationship with vaccines.

"Note: the Purdue/Sackler campaign surrounding opiods is already well-known, but AFAICT, it has no relationship with vaccines."

Pharmaceutical companies betraying the trust of people has nothing to do with the people not trusting the pharmaceutical companies?

You think the opioid campaign is the only real wrongdoing by pharmaceutical companies??

Purdue is one pharmaceutical company. Given their behavior, I find no fault with anyone who'd distrust products from Purdue specifically. However, it appears Purdue doesn't produce any vaccines, so it is orthogonal to the discussion.

> You think the opioid campaign is the only real wrongdoing by pharmaceutical companies??

I'm open to the possibility of there being additional wrongdoing by Purdue or other pharmaceutical companies, perhaps even related to vaccines. However, the fact that one pharmaceutical company engaged in (admittedly pretty egregious) wrongdoing with respect to opioids does not itself prove any wrongdoing regarding vaccines made by itself or other companies. Assuming otherwise is falling victim to a syllogistic fallacy.

Answering my call for evidence of wrongdoing specific to vaccines with such a conspiratorial-minded question suggests you have no such evidence. I implore you to prove me incorrect.

We're talking past each other.

I'm talking about perceived industry wide reputational damage by the public as a cause for distrust.

Who cares about fallacies?

Beliefs triumph over logic. Public perception > truth.

Further reputational damages are not unwarranted. Thalidomide is an old example. There are many more recent ones outside of opioid. You're free to look up actual court cases.