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Re:Canada loses its measles-free status, with US on track to... by ryandv on Tuesday November 11, 2025 @11:47AM (#45889516)
> quasi-scientific and at times authoritarian about things.

The Canadian COVID response was basically the nail in the coffin of progressives and their quasi-scientific thought. I was advised of all of the following statements upon being notified by the city that I had been in contact with a confirmed COVID patient:

    * You are NOT allowed to leave the bounds of your property, under penalty of a $1000/day fine.

    * You MAY however choose to travel to a COVID testing center.

    * You MAY NOT take any form of public transit, walking, or cycling, unless you do not have a car.

    * If you do not have a car, you MAY walk or cycle to the testing center.

    * You MAY NOT walk or cycle around the neighborhood for exercise, under penalty of a $1000/day fine.
Amongst other pseudoscientific hygiene theater such as, "You should not go out to eat at restaurants. If you do, you must wear a mask - but only when standing up, or while sitting down but not eating or drinking. Put your mask on to use the restrooms and take them back off when you have returned to your seat." Does COVID respect such elaborate rules of engagement in which transmission is forbidden at the dinner table?

All of this while people were out contravening quarantine mandates anyway. Getting haircuts kills grandma - so how come everybody out on the streets was proudly posting pictures of themselves on social media wearing rainbow-colored masks, with perfectly manicured buzz cuts? You know what it actually looks like to observe quarantine and not get a haircut for two years?

Don't try to give me that gaslighting bullshit either where people started to learn to "cut their own hair." Barber's college takes two years. How did everybody magically acquire this skill overnight (spoiler alert: they did not)?

Makes you think - if they can't even muster an internally consistent and scientific, non-contradictory response to a global pandemic, what the fuck else are they lying about? I'm to trust the government's positions on gender in light of this debacle too?

Re:Canada loses its measles-free status, with US on track to... by scottbez1 on Tuesday November 11, 2025 @11:57AM (#45889724)
None of those bullet points are contradictory though?

They are all completely aligned with a policy reducing non-essential public exposure, with a tiered approach for transport that limits public exposure where better alternatives exist.

Re:Canada loses its measles-free status, with US on track to... by ryandv on Tuesday November 11, 2025 @12:00PM (#45889777)
> tiered approach for transport that limits public exposure where better alternatives exist.

Travelling to a testing center almost certainly puts me within proximity of COVID patients at one point, particularly in the waiting room. Sitting in waiting rooms is how I got the case the city notified me of in the first place.

Cycling and exercise is not only a solitary activity, it is also conducted outdoors where we were told risk of airborne transmission was de minimis. It in fact limits public exposure more than travelling to a public place full of probable COVID patients.

Re:Canada loses its measles-free status, with US on track to... by ryandrake on Tuesday November 11, 2025 @12:11PM (#45889944)
> All of this while people were out contravening quarantine mandates anyway. Getting haircuts kills grandma - so how come everybody out on the streets was proudly posting pictures of themselves on social media wearing rainbow-colored masks, with perfectly manicured buzz cuts?

I think if COVID times taught us anything, it's that you can make all the "mandates" you want, but if you don't enforce them, they're just suggestions, and the public will mock and ignore them. It was infuriating watching people ignore stay-at-home, deliberately endangering everyone and prolonging the pandemic, and then laughing it up on social media, consequence-free. Absolutely shameful. But because the mandates were never really enforced, people freely acted like assholes.

Re:Canada loses its measles-free status, with US on track to... by ryandv on Tuesday November 11, 2025 @12:15PM (#45890021)
> I think if COVID times taught us anything, it's that you can make all the "mandates" you want, but if you don't enforce them, they're just suggestions

Right. Which is why I no longer support the progressive left. They show themselves completely devoid of the moral fiber required to "do the right thing" and co-operate in society without the big stick to beat them down - contrary to what their PR team and signalling would have you believe. Thus, I find myself now drawn to Palantir auth-right styles of governance that are firmly grounded in science, not identity politics and postmodernist "reality is just a narrative, and we can create whatever narrative we want"-style thinking. Literally fucking demonic.

The only way to properly enforce the COVID mandates would have been pervasive surveillance state. Canada should also have been welding people into their homes.

The left does not deserve liberty.

Re:Canada loses its measles-free status, with US on track to... by moralestapia on Tuesday November 11, 2025 @11:53AM (#45889624)
All of this is true. Not just true, but verifiably true. We all lived through it as well.

Let me say that again, you (the reader) saw these things with your own eyes, you heard these things with your own ears, not just for a couple days but for more than a year.

You know this is true.

And yet, why would some people choose to ignore that it happened?

To me, this is/was an even greater eye-opener than the disease or the vaccine itself.

Re:Canada loses its measles-free status, with US on track to... by ryandv on Tuesday November 11, 2025 @11:54AM (#45889642)
> Why would some people choose to ignore that it happened?

You know damn well. Toronto is a city of liars, and I have demonstrated it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Nobody here will be able to refute this statement in good faith - only downvote it.