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Re:Launch HN: Hypercubic (YC F25) – AI for COBOL and Mainframes by sai18 on Monday November 10, 2025 @01:17PM (#45878928)
Thanks for sharing. It seems MUMPS is just as old and legacy as some of the COBOL systems!
Re:Launch HN: Hypercubic (YC F25) – AI for COBOL and Mainframes by antonvs on Tuesday November 11, 2025 @02:52AM (#45885039)
I was offered a MUMPS job in the 1980s. I took one look at the code and very quickly concluded that life was too short for that.

Later I got into programming language theory, and took another look at MUMPS from that perspective. As a programming language, it’s truly terrible in ways that languages like COBOL and FORTRAN are not. Just as one example, “local” variables have an indefinite lifetime and are accessible throughout a process, i.e. they’re not scoped to functions. But you can dynamically hide/shadow and delete them. It would be hard to design a less tractable way of managing variables if you tried.

MUMPS’ value proposition was how it handled persistent data as a built-in part of the language. In that sense it was a precursor to systems like dBASE, which were eventually supplanted by SQL databases. MUMPS was a pretty good persistent data management system coupled with a truly terrible programming language.