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Re:Why Sam Altman Won't Be on the Hook for OpenAI's Spending... by dvt on Saturday November 08, 2025 @11:13AM (#45857708)
> The skulls of the average shareholder must echo like a cave.

Given you calling these people stupid, I'd be shocked if you out-earned them over the past 15 years[1]. And if your counter-argument will be "that's a bad yardstick" then what yardstick shall we use? I own no TSLA stock, nor do I particularly like Musk, but this weird irrational hatred just doesn't seem to contribute anything other than reiterating the (oh so boring) liberal "Musk bad" zeitgeist talking points.

[1] https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/TSLA/tesla/roe

Re:Why Sam Altman Won't Be on the Hook for OpenAI's Spending... by oakejp12 on Saturday November 08, 2025 @11:35AM (#45857940)
Doesn’t seem pretty boring and unreasonable to me to hate a Nazi and who’s contributing to building a mechahilter.

At least, these were previously American values to hate these people.

Re:Why Sam Altman Won't Be on the Hook for OpenAI's Spending... by phelddagrif on Saturday November 08, 2025 @11:20AM (#45857782)
yes yes my favorite objective the measure of intelligence: earnings yield
Re:Why Sam Altman Won't Be on the Hook for OpenAI's Spending... by dvt on Saturday November 08, 2025 @11:27AM (#45857866)
If you're a trader, isn't the whole idea maximizing your earnings yield? My point was that gp called these people stupid, but the numbers show they're smart.
Re:Why Sam Altman Won't Be on the Hook for OpenAI's Spending... by stackghost on Saturday November 08, 2025 @11:53AM (#45858082)
>this weird irrational hatred

He's a literal Nazi who gave the sieg heil salute on national television.

It's not irrational for people to think he's a bad person.

Re:Why Sam Altman Won't Be on the Hook for OpenAI's Spending... by dangus on Saturday November 08, 2025 @11:37AM (#45857963)
Oh you have mistaken me greatly.

This isn’t a liberal/conservative thing.

This is a class conflict thing.

The rich are stupid, just like everyone else. That in itself goes against the narrative that has been woven in our corporate mass media, the accepted narrative that makes it seem as though the rich are meritous and deserve to hoard wealth.

This lie told to all of us, among other lies, protects the rich from having their ill-gotten gains seized by the working people. It’s worth reminding everyone that the riches of the few depend entirely on the labor of the many. They need us more than we need them. Their illusion of the legality of their private ownership of excessive wealth depends on physical protection provided by the working class. If every OpenAI employee quit, if every Sam Altman bodyguard and doorman quit, if every police officer refused to protect the wealthy, these people would be financially worthless. And it really is as simple as that, it wouldn’t even be that hard to shatter the illusion.

To bring this back to being relevant to the article, this illusion is why CEOs will never be held accountable for their actions. Shareholders are part of the pyramid scheme feeding everyone on the very top. Failures of the visionary founder CEO are like failures of Kim Jong Un: certainly not their fault! Your undying support as a shareholder is required to right the ship. Your lack of faith is what caused the failure in the first place.

Of course I haven’t out-earned them, I don’t have an army of accountants and lawyers working due me to dodge taxes and avoid complying with laws, access to private equity investment, insider trading knowledge, and all of my income is W2, so my tax rate is about 4x higher than any billionaire.