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Re:Kimi K2 Thinking, a SOTA open-source trillion-parameter r... by david927 on Friday November 07, 2025 @10:25AM (#45847352)
> will outperform

does outperform

China is absolutely winning innovation in the 21st century. I'm so impressed. For an example from just this morning, there was an article that they're developing thorium reactor-powered cargo ships. I'm blown away.

Re:Kimi K2 Thinking, a SOTA open-source trillion-parameter r... by yanhangyhy on Friday November 07, 2025 @10:36AM (#45847484)
I remember this thing. The tech is from America actually, decades ago. (Thorium). But they give up and china counties the work recent years
Re:Kimi K2 Thinking, a SOTA open-source trillion-parameter r... by embedding-shape on Friday November 07, 2025 @10:59AM (#45847729)
> The tech is from America actually, decades ago. (Thorium).

I guess it depends on how you see it, but regardless, the people putting it to use today doesn't seem to be in the US.

FWIW:

> Thorium was discovered in 1828 by the Swedish chemist Jöns Jacob Berzelius during his analysis of a new mineral [...] In 1824, after more deposits of the same mineral in Vest-Agder, Norway, were discovered [...] While thorium was discovered in 1828 its first application dates only from 1885, when Austrian chemist Carl Auer von Welsbach invented the gas mantle [...] Thorium was first observed to be radioactive in 1898, by the German chemist Gerhard Carl Schmidt

For being an American discovery, it sure has a lot of European people involved in it :) (I've said it elsewhere but worth repeating; trying to track down where a technology/invention actually comes from is a fools errand, and there is always something earlier that led to today, so doesn't serve much purpose except nationalism it seems to me).

Re:Kimi K2 Thinking, a SOTA open-source trillion-parameter r... by conradev on Friday November 07, 2025 @12:01PM (#45848447)
Re:Kimi K2 Thinking, a SOTA open-source trillion-parameter r... by rmorey on Friday November 07, 2025 @10:41AM (#45847544)
"The tech is from America actually, decades ago... But they give up and china continues the work"

Many such cases...

Re:Kimi K2 Thinking, a SOTA open-source trillion-parameter r... by yanhangyhy on Saturday November 08, 2025 @10:27AM (#45857296)
rare earth..
Re:Kimi K2 Thinking, a SOTA open-source trillion-parameter r... by epolanski on Sunday November 09, 2025 @03:37PM (#45868931)
Jm2c, but I really dislike those winners/losers narratives. They lack any nuance, are juvenile, and ultimately do not contribute much but noise like endless of pointless "who's better Jordan or Lebron?" debates.