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Re:Objective-C for Windows, including UIKit (public archive)... by sillywalk on Sunday November 02, 2025 @04:58PM (#45793793)
Interesting, I never knew about this. I do remember that NeXT ported OPENSTEP to Windows NT as OPENSTEP Enterprise.
Re:Objective-C for Windows, including UIKit (public archive)... by malkia on Friday November 07, 2025 @08:21PM (#45853216)
I still have WebObjects 4.5.2, but could not get hands on the YellowBox
Re:Objective-C for Windows, including UIKit (public archive)... by dottrap on Friday November 07, 2025 @08:55PM (#45853372)
Microsoft's timing was the worst. I think they announced this a year after Swift was already announced, but before Swift was open sourced. So Microsoft wouldn't be able to deal with things like Obj-C/Swift interop which iOS developers were already jumping onto. And Microsoft's Windows 8 mobile initiative was pretty clearly a flop by this point.

Frankly, this Obj-C effort needed to be done way earlier, starting with AppKit, like back when Microsoft was panicking that OS X 10.4 Tiger was going to kick Longhorn's butt. If these tools had already been proven useful before the dawn of the iPhone, Microsoft might have had a chance of riding the iOS wave.

Re:Objective-C for Windows, including UIKit (public archive)... by extraduder_ire on Friday November 07, 2025 @09:19PM (#45853496)
I think a separate objective-c runtime was ported to windows by apple for itunes and later safari to work.
Re:Objective-C for Windows, including UIKit (public archive)... by svth on Saturday November 08, 2025 @01:27AM (#45854601)
If I recall correctly, iTunes was a Carbon application. They ported parts of the Carbon APIs to get it running on Windows.
Re:Objective-C for Windows, including UIKit (public archive)... by agsnu on Saturday November 08, 2025 @03:11AM (#45855028)
QuickTime for Windows existed long before then, and Apple ported a bunch of the old Classic Mac Toolbox to Windows as part of that.

IIRC it was actually this Windows port of Toolbox that in some ways laid the foundation for Carbon - i.e. a port of the Toolbox API to what became Mac OS X.

Re:Objective-C for Windows, including UIKit (public archive)... by lukeh on Saturday November 08, 2025 @09:01PM (#45862239)
Yes, this is correct.
Re:Objective-C for Windows, including UIKit (public archive)... by stuaxo on Sunday November 09, 2025 @03:06AM (#45863815)
Interesting stuff, I wish there was a way it would get open sourced one day.
Re:Objective-C for Windows, including UIKit (public archive)... by tonyedgecombe on Saturday November 08, 2025 @02:52AM (#45854944)
I do remember it had its own font rendering which looked out of place on Windows.
Re:Objective-C for Windows, including UIKit (public archive)... by stuaxo on Sunday November 09, 2025 @03:05AM (#45863808)
There seem to be bunch of DLLs in iTunes and Safari with familiar names.

Would have been good if someone made bindings for them, it would have been interesting to see what MacOS like stuff could work there, even if it just python bindings.

Re:Objective-C for Windows, including UIKit (public archive)... by fithisux on Sunday November 09, 2025 @09:21AM (#45865786)
There is also GNUStep.