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Re:Tongyi DeepResearch – open-source 30B MoE Model that riva... by ainch on Sunday November 02, 2025 @03:19PM (#45793054)
Generally you train each expert simultaneously. The benefit of MoEs is that you get cheap inference because you only use the active expert parameters, which constitute a small fraction of the total parameter count. For example Deepseek R1 (which is especially sparse) only uses 1/18th of the total parameters per-query.
Re:Tongyi DeepResearch – open-source 30B MoE Model that riva... by pama on Sunday November 02, 2025 @08:35PM (#45795071)
> only uses 1/18th of the total parameters per-query.

only uses 1/18th of the total parameters per token. It may use the large fraction of them in a single query.

Re:Tongyi DeepResearch – open-source 30B MoE Model that riva... by ainch on Monday November 03, 2025 @02:58PM (#45803670)
That's a good correction, thanks.