Re:Chat Control proposal fails again after public opposition
by varispeed on Saturday November 01, 2025 @09:51PM
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No, that’s a misread. I’m not collapsing “intimidation” into “violence”. I’m pointing out that psychological and coercive violence are legally and medically recognised forms of harm. The distinction you’re making is rhetorical, not substantive. The state can’t redefine violence narrowly to exclude itself while criminal law already accepts non-physical violence as real. The argument is about consistency, not syllogisms.
Re:Chat Control proposal fails again after public opposition
by nandomrumber on Sunday November 02, 2025 @12:28AM
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Get your own words, we’re already using these ones.
Violence is a category of harm.
Definitions matter.
If speech is violence then execution is a suitable punishment.
Violence for A ends is Terrorism
Intimidation for A ends is terrorism
∴ Intimidation for A ends is violence. <--- does not follow
Does it serve a similar purpose? Sure. Is it a threat of violence? Sure, but words have meaning.