News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Hard Rust requirements from May onward for all Debian ports by s20n on Saturday November 01, 2025 @11:15AM (#45782299)
> This extends at first to the Rust compiler and standard library, and the Sequoia ecosystem.

By Sequoia, are they talking about replacing GnuPG with https://sequoia-pgp.org/ for signature verification?

I really hope they don't replace the audited and battle-tested GnuPG parts with some new-fangled project like that just because it is written in "memory-safe" rust.

Re:Hard Rust requirements from May onward for all Debian ports by Valodim on Saturday November 01, 2025 @11:39AM (#45782524)
Sequoia-PGP is 8 years old at this point, their 1.0 happened half a decade ago.

Meanwhile, GnuPG is well regarded for its code maturity. But it is a C codebase with nearly no tests, no CI pipeline(!!), an architecture that is basically a statemachine with side effects, and over 200 flags. In my experience, only people who haven't experienced the codebase speak positively of it.

Re:Hard Rust requirements from May onward for all Debian ports by julian-klode on Saturday November 01, 2025 @04:14PM (#45784944)
It's rather that GnuPG is ill-regarded for its code immaturity tbh. You don't even need to read the code base, just try to use it in a script:

It exits 0 when the verification failed, it exits 1 when it passed, and you have to ignore it all and parse the output of the status fd to find the truth.

It provides options to enforce various algorithmic constraints but they only work in some modes and are silently ignored in others.

Re:Hard Rust requirements from May onward for all Debian ports by bgwalter on Saturday November 01, 2025 @04:37PM (#45785111)
GnuPG has protected Snowden and he speaks positively of it.

Does Sequoia-PGP have similar credentials and who funds it?

Re:Hard Rust requirements from May onward for all Debian ports by fastball on Saturday November 01, 2025 @12:12PM (#45782823)
Or did Rust just raise its Series A?
Re:Hard Rust requirements from May onward for all Debian ports by stackghost on Saturday November 01, 2025 @11:26AM (#45782397)
What are the remaining use cases for GnuPG that aren't done better by specialized tools?
Re:Hard Rust requirements from May onward for all Debian ports by Avamander on Saturday November 01, 2025 @01:03PM (#45783288)
When was GnuPG audited and by whom?
Re:Hard Rust requirements from May onward for all Debian ports by julian-klode on Saturday November 01, 2025 @05:10PM (#45785386)
We have replaced GnuPG by Sequoia in the previous Debian release.