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Re:Free software scares normal people by Dylan16807 on Thursday October 30, 2025 @04:46PM (#45765110)
How do you know the software in the article will do what you want?

For handbrake you can pick a preset and see what happens. Or don't even do that: when you open it it'll make you pick a video file, then you can just jam the green start button and see if it gives you what you need. Very little time spent.

Re:Free software scares normal people by bugsliker on Thursday October 30, 2025 @06:31PM (#45766167)
i mean i don’t know that the green button does what i want either so what’s your point?
Re:Free software scares normal people by Dylan16807 on Thursday October 30, 2025 @06:39PM (#45766228)
Right, you don't know if either program is the right thing just by looking at it. The reason you're uncertain isn't all those options handbrake shows. You have that uncertainty no matter what. You need the same confidence with or without options. So that problem, while real, isn't an argument against showing options.

And as far as time goes, it only takes a few seconds in either scenario. You hit go, you see the progress bar is moving, you check your file a few minutes later.

Re:Free software scares normal people by bugsliker on Thursday October 30, 2025 @06:58PM (#45766400)
if the UI is forcing me to look at these options before pressing Go, it is a signal that someone thought these were important to consider before i pressed Go. this is the gricean maxims of quantity and relation.

the decision to ignore this signal is a learned behavior that you and i have, is all i’m saying

Re:Free software scares normal people by Dylan16807 on Thursday October 30, 2025 @07:08PM (#45766473)
The average person doesn't even read error messages. They know how to ignore things and hit the button that goes forward just fine. If they choose not to try the program, that's different. They don't lack the skill. (A child might lack this skill but a child is curious enough to push on so it works out anyway.)
Re:Free software scares normal people by bugsliker on Thursday October 30, 2025 @07:40PM (#45766754)
I don’t really understand what you’re arguing anymore. Is the average person afraid of the unknown or are they capable of ignoring things?

You seem comfortable with the idea that a child not having this learned skill. I don’t know why you don’t extend that empathy towards the inexperienced in general.

Re:Free software scares normal people by Dylan16807 on Thursday October 30, 2025 @08:40PM (#45767135)
My interpretation was that you're implying a big fraction of adults don't have this skill, that a typical non-technical person likely doesn't have it. I'm saying nearly every adult does have it. So I have empathy for those that truly lack it, the 1% of adults, but that empathy doesn't extend to the rest that aren't suffering that issue.
Re:Free software scares normal people by bugsliker on Thursday October 30, 2025 @09:15PM (#45767337)
why would people choose to suffer a skill issue for a skill they have? that makes no sense to me and imo you're vastly underestimating this percent.
Re:Free software scares normal people by Dylan16807 on Friday October 31, 2025 @12:20AM (#45768399)
Quitting is easier.
Re:Free software scares normal people by bugsliker on Friday October 31, 2025 @12:36AM (#45768475)
you’re bringing in an unwarranted value judgement on quitting here. easier why? maybe because i have more important things to do?
Re:Free software scares normal people by Dylan16807 on Friday October 31, 2025 @12:52AM (#45768553)
It only takes a few seconds.