Re:U.S. agencies back banning top-selling TP-Link home route...
by mainecoder on Thursday October 30, 2025 @03:44PM
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Why does this have to be a political issue the TP-Links hardware and software can be examined, this is not a difficult process that would need the greatest experts on earth a simple examination should show whether data is being sent to China or if there is any security issue that can be spoken of so far nothing. Might as well say sanction then because we need to make a distinction between a technical security flaw or economic and political reasons, if the security flaw is not articulated then it's safe to assume it is political.
Re:U.S. agencies back banning top-selling TP-Link home route...
by mindslight on Thursday October 30, 2025 @03:59PM
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> Why does this have to be a political issue the TP-Links hardware and software can be examined
Because while people were really frustrated with these issues, the correct reforms are nuanced and are directly opposed by the US surveillance industry (eg anti-trust unbundling of software/hardware, personal data protection). So instead people channeled their frustrations into the siren song a fascist demagogue promising to simply make it all better with the snap of his fingers, while his only real substantive policies amount to shitting up our country and insisting that citizens be happy wallowing in it. When the rule of law gets tossed out a window, everything becomes political.
Re:U.S. agencies back banning top-selling TP-Link home route...
by halJordan on Thursday October 30, 2025 @04:45PM
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If you look at the article there isn't any one claiming that tplink is in bed with the prc. Unlike say huawei or zte. It's not even that they're saying tplink could be compelled to give up data like alibaba or tencent.
Rather, it's that tplink has security vulnerabilities and those along with all other factors make it a national security threat. Other factors include, how pervasive it is in the market and how actively the Chinese are exploiting these flaws.
And to your point- soho devices are notoriously insecure, tplink especially. If youre not familiar then you simply must take your expert's advice on it.
>>The router-manufacturer TP-Link, established in China, has roughly 65% of the U.S. market for routers for homes and small businesses
Ban TP-link and tens or hundreds of chinese disposable brands will sell OEM TPlink routers, with even worse security.
Solution: all hardware IOT companies are responsible for any vulnerability discovered. ISPs are fined according to the number of vulnerable devices they connect. Watch responsible brands trying to cannibalize each other (discovering vulnerabilities) and ISPs actually caring about enforcing.
By "responsible" I mean recalls and replacements. Financial and penal responsibility.
IOTs will cost their actual price, without being financed by adversarial agents and bad manufacturing practices.
Re:U.S. agencies back banning top-selling TP-Link home route...
by catgirlinspace on Thursday October 30, 2025 @07:34PM
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> ISPs are fined according to the number of vulnerable devices they connect.
That sounds like how we get ISPs only allowing ISP-provided routers and only devices from a few big manufacturers can connect. And things like phones running LineageOS not being able to connect.
Re:U.S. agencies back banning top-selling TP-Link home route...
by catlikesshrimp on Friday October 31, 2025 @10:30AM
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I was thinking new devices having to pass tests in the spirit of the electromagnetic interference tests for certification. Except models having to pass the tests yearly / quarterly / any time period. Such expenses would be covered by the manufacturer during the official life of the device offered by the manufacturer.
I understand your point. What you describe is happening in Australia. Hopefully any law targetting botnets and any other in the future has a clause forbidding this behavior of banning provider not approved devices when they are technically compatible.
Re:U.S. agencies back banning top-selling TP-Link home route...
by potsandpans on Thursday October 30, 2025 @02:56PM
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As an aside, something extremely annoying I've noticed about tplink is that every once in a while when I go to log into the router, it redirects to a tplink website and proxies my local router page through it.
Because while people were really frustrated with these issues, the correct reforms are nuanced and are directly opposed by the US surveillance industry (eg anti-trust unbundling of software/hardware, personal data protection). So instead people channeled their frustrations into the siren song a fascist demagogue promising to simply make it all better with the snap of his fingers, while his only real substantive policies amount to shitting up our country and insisting that citizens be happy wallowing in it. When the rule of law gets tossed out a window, everything becomes political.
Rather, it's that tplink has security vulnerabilities and those along with all other factors make it a national security threat. Other factors include, how pervasive it is in the market and how actively the Chinese are exploiting these flaws.
And to your point- soho devices are notoriously insecure, tplink especially. If youre not familiar then you simply must take your expert's advice on it.
This is more about preventing the next vpnfilter
They shall start with Cisco then. Or backdoors do not count as "other factors" ?
https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/us-ban-china-...
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tp-link-router-china-us-ban/#si...
>>The router-manufacturer TP-Link, established in China, has roughly 65% of the U.S. market for routers for homes and small businesses
Ban TP-link and tens or hundreds of chinese disposable brands will sell OEM TPlink routers, with even worse security.
Solution: all hardware IOT companies are responsible for any vulnerability discovered. ISPs are fined according to the number of vulnerable devices they connect. Watch responsible brands trying to cannibalize each other (discovering vulnerabilities) and ISPs actually caring about enforcing.
By "responsible" I mean recalls and replacements. Financial and penal responsibility.
IOTs will cost their actual price, without being financed by adversarial agents and bad manufacturing practices.
That sounds like how we get ISPs only allowing ISP-provided routers and only devices from a few big manufacturers can connect. And things like phones running LineageOS not being able to connect.
I understand your point. What you describe is happening in Australia. Hopefully any law targetting botnets and any other in the future has a clause forbidding this behavior of banning provider not approved devices when they are technically compatible.
Terrible.