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Re:If you don't tinker, you don't have taste by MisterTea on Wednesday October 29, 2025 @12:25PM (#45749081)
No, people like IPAs because they taste good to them. I have never heard anyone complementing the flavorings of Pabst (yuk), Schaefer (worst beer I ever tasted), or Milwaukee's Best (aka The Beast). Same with Old English 800 or Colt 45, they're awful but get you drunk for cheap.
Re:If you don't tinker, you don't have taste by FuriouslyAdrift on Wednesday October 29, 2025 @02:04PM (#45750710)
As a former home brewer, when I taste a ton of hops, the first thing that pops into my mind is "oh they screwed up the batch" because a fistfull of hops was a way to wipe out bad flavors and save material.
Re:If you don't tinker, you don't have taste by psunavy03 on Thursday October 30, 2025 @03:26PM (#45764207)
As a home brewer, just because one person tried to salvage crap by dumping hops into the boil does not automatically make all hoppy styles crap. Perhaps more forgiving for less-experienced brewers, but doing them well still takes skill.
Re:If you don't tinker, you don't have taste by FuriouslyAdrift on Thursday October 30, 2025 @04:06PM (#45764702)
It's one of those things so common and spoken about among brew clubs that I saw it as an established truth. We always gave the PNW brewers crap for over reliance on hops. In the time and place I was at, porters and stouts ruled.

The hardest thing to brew at home is actually a pale ale or a light lager. You can't hide any mistakes in those because they are 'sex in a canoe' beers.