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Re:Keep Android Open by hedora on Wednesday October 29, 2025 @09:39AM (#45746684)
Ubuntu controls a big voting block in debian’s organization. They forced systemd in, for example.

Devuan is a good enough compromise for me. The OS is stable, and the only issues I’ve had involve hacking curl|bash scripts that fail to realize they should just install the debian version.

(Steam and docker run well.)

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Re:Keep Android Open by jraph on Wednesday October 29, 2025 @04:03PM (#45752306)
Even without counting Ubuntu, was there a significant number of people against systemd in Debian, with convincing arguments?
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Re:Keep Android Open by oarsinsync on Thursday October 30, 2025 @02:52AM (#45757093)
Summary of some of them can be read at https://lwn.net/Articles/452865/

Debian’s debate page can be read at https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd

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Re:Keep Android Open by jraph on Thursday October 30, 2025 @08:57AM (#45759543)
Nothing there supports there were a significant number / more than a minority of people against systemd in Debian outside Ubuntu, which was the extraordinary claim I was (implicitly) complaining against.

I see the convincing arguments against systemd, mostly wrt to the support of the FreeBSD kernel in Debian. I wasn't familiar with them, it's interesting, thanks.

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