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Re:Keep Android Open by andrepd on Wednesday October 29, 2025 @06:43AM (#45745042)
> Before buying a smartphone I tried to find an inexpensive model that supports open source OS, but I couldn't. What open OS support is ether expensive Pixels, or outdated models.

You can buy a refurbished Pixel 5 for less than 200$. Great screen, great camera, 5G, the works. It's definitely not an "outdated" device, and it runs Graphene or Lineage with minimal hassle.

Re:Keep Android Open by gf000 on Wednesday October 29, 2025 @07:05AM (#45745208)
You can get a new Pixel 8 for ~500$, I would say that has a very decent price to value, and will be supported for longer.
Re:Keep Android Open by edm0nd on Wednesday October 29, 2025 @12:32PM (#45749227)
you can also snag refurb'd Pixel 7s for $170 off eBay atm
Re:Keep Android Open by grepex on Wednesday October 29, 2025 @01:17PM (#45749966)
I snagged a Pixel 8A for around 200 on ebay.
Re:Keep Android Open by codedokode on Thursday October 30, 2025 @04:08AM (#45757498)
It's hard to find. Pixel 8 costs $670 here, and the cheapest Pixel is 9a for $470. At this price, it is overpriced. Pixel 8 has 8 GB RAM, Samsung A16 with 8 GB costs just $230. It's almost 3 times cheaper. And Samsung supports 2 SIM cards, unlike Pixel, so you can have, for example, one SIM for Internet and another for calls.
Re:Keep Android Open by Andromxda on Thursday October 30, 2025 @04:52PM (#45765183)
Used or refurbished devices are typically much cheaper. It's what I would recommend.

You can also use 2 SIMs on a Pixel by using an eSIM.

Re:Keep Android Open by gf000 on Friday October 31, 2025 @06:04AM (#45770244)
As mentioned, second-hand is also an option. But my price was actually from Hungary with world-record VAT included, so not sure if you really couldn't find/order it for around that price.

Also, the basic premise is that you can buy a decent Pixel phone for an affordable price, not that it has the very best price/value out of any device. I would also wager that the Pixel 8 has massively better cameras than a Samsung A16, so not apples to oranges.

Re:Keep Android Open by codedokode on Thursday October 30, 2025 @04:21AM (#45757587)
The battery probably lost its capacity in 3-4 years since release.
Re:Keep Android Open by andrepd on Thursday October 30, 2025 @01:58PM (#45762997)
If only things could be made so parts that wear out can be swapped at a repair shop...

More seriously: I believe many refurbished resellers do swap a new battery on the higher quality tiers.

Re:Keep Android Open by Andromxda on Thursday October 30, 2025 @05:03PM (#45765326)
The Pixel 5 isn't supported anymore. The Pixel 6a still has a little less than 2 years of support left. These have become pretty cheap.

The Pixel 8 and 8a aren't that expensive either. And keep in mind that they are supported until 2030 and 2031 respectively. [1] They not only receive security updates for 7 years, instead of the 5 years for previous Pixel generations, but also have stronger hardware security, by implementing the ARM memory tagging extension. [2]

[1] https://grapheneos.org/faq#device-lifetime

[2] https://grapheneos.org/faq#recommended-devices