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Re:Grokipedia by xAI has just launched with 885,279 articles by davydm on Tuesday October 28, 2025 @01:11PM (#45735664)
I'm no apartheid apologist, but I have lived here (ZA) all my life.

Whilst I haven't read the entire article, the first paragraph is actually on-point: apartheid was shit in a lot of respects, but the schools, especially in rural areas, have dramatically declined since 1994, as have most government-run companies (with the exceptions like Eskom being bailed out every year).

You don't have to like the facts, but that's what they are.

Re:Grokipedia by xAI has just launched with 885,279 articles by tim333 on Tuesday October 28, 2025 @01:29PM (#45735936)
Yeah I used to date a coloured girl from Jo'berg who'd grown up in that era and she was positive that they had some degree of prosperity and modern comforts unlike the surrounding African countries. The overwhelming flow of people voting with their feet and walking across the borders was from the surrounding countries to SA rather than vice versa.
Re:Grokipedia by xAI has just launched with 885,279 articles by iloveyou1xrobot on Tuesday October 28, 2025 @05:00PM (#45739113)
But this is literal apartheid apologia.

Saying "advancements in black literacy and real wages during the era" as if those things are due to apartheid is offensively absurd.

How about we advance literacy and wages without, you know, all the apartheid.

Re:Grokipedia by xAI has just launched with 885,279 articles by balaz on Tuesday October 28, 2025 @05:20PM (#45739367)
By "we" I will understand that you mean Africans. Otherwise, you might be committing one (1) colonialism.

So, ask the rest of Africa how that has gone for them.

Re:Grokipedia by xAI has just launched with 885,279 articles by iloveyou1xrobot on Tuesday October 28, 2025 @06:26PM (#45740085)
Ah yes, the use of inclusive pronouns is colonialism, but apartheid is good.

I am sure this is a sincere concern of yours rather than an attempt to mockingly use the arguments of your position's opposition.

Re:Grokipedia by xAI has just launched with 885,279 articles by a0123 on Tuesday October 28, 2025 @05:12PM (#45739258)
I wonder if something called "context" and the socio-economic direction might have something to do with it.

"I think we gotta hand it to Apartheid because schools were very slightly less worse" isn't the argument you think it is. It does paint where you stand quite clearly.

Never start a sentence with "I'm no apartheid apologist, but". Nothing good can ever come out of it.