Re:The next chapter of the Microsoft–OpenAI partnership
by matt_kantor on Tuesday October 28, 2025 @12:55PM
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I'm not the person you asked, but I think:
1. Minds are machines and can (in principle) have their operation duplicated
2. LLMs are not doing this
Re:The next chapter of the Microsoft–OpenAI partnership
by maqnius on Tuesday October 28, 2025 @01:19PM
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> Do you think this goal during training cannot be changed to impersonate someone normal such that you cannot detect you are chatting with an LLM?
I don't think so, because LLMs hallucinate by design, which will always produce oddities.
> Before flight was understood some thought "magic" was involved. Do you think minds operate using "magic"? Are minds not machines? Their operation can not be duplicated?
Might involve something we don't grasp, but despite that: only because something moves through air it's not flying and will never be, just like a thrown stone.
Re:The next chapter of the Microsoft–OpenAI partnership
by array_key_first on Tuesday October 28, 2025 @02:44PM
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Maybe current LLMs can do that. But none are, so it hasn't passed. Whether that's because of economic or marketing reasons as opposed to technical does not matter. You still have to pass the test before we can definitely say you've passed the test.
Do you think this goal during training cannot be changed to impersonate someone normal such that you cannot detect you are chatting with an LLM?
Before flight was understood some thought "magic" was involved. Do you think minds operate using "magic"? Are minds not machines? Their operation can not be duplicated?